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Modern Humans Arrived in Europe Earlier Than Previously Thought, Study Finds
Wall Street Journal ^ | 20 August 2014 | GAUTAM NAIK

Posted on 08/20/2014 2:50:07 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

A new study concludes that modern humans arrived in Europe much earlier than previously believed, and clarifies more specifically the long time period they overlapped with Neanderthals.

The significant overlap bolsters a theory that the two species met, bred and possibly exchanged or copied vital toolmaking techniques. It represents another twist in an enduring puzzle about human origins: why we triumphed while the better adapted and similarly intelligent Neanderthals died out.

The study was published Wednesday in the journal Nature.

Neanderthals are our closest known extinct relatives, with about 99.5% of DNA in common with humans. They had a brain size similar to ours and much stronger bodies. They were also likely better adapted to Europe's bitter climate and had survived several ice ages. Modern humans, by contrast, arrived in Europe from sultry Africa.

Scientists have struggled to pinpoint when and how the Neanderthals disappeared in Europe. A big reason is that radiocarbon dating of material older than 30,000 years is unreliable because contamination of the samples can make them appear much younger.

A Neanderthal jaw from Zafaraya, Spain Thomas Higham An international team of scientists has now used improved techniques—including methods to remove contamination, plus more sophisticated chemical treatments—to more accurately date samples of bone, shell and charcoal dug up at 40 archaeological sites from Russia to Spain.

Neanderthals originally emerged from Africa and lived in Europe, Russia and the Middle East at least 200,000 years ago and possibly for tens of thousands of years before that.

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To: Fractal Trader

Neanderthals were 100% human but had the disease of rickets which accounts for their posture. (Maybe this has changed since the late 60’s)


21 posted on 08/20/2014 3:14:14 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: PapaBear3625

This does not mean that his ancestors lived in Ireland.

That was the primary conclusion but with more data they then said he was related to half of European males. I keep hoping for more European DNA studies.


22 posted on 08/20/2014 3:19:13 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

That Shakira is a real looker.


23 posted on 08/20/2014 3:27:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Pretty is as pretty does.


24 posted on 08/20/2014 3:30:48 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: mountainlion
With the movement of peoples westward over millennia, Ireland would be the end of the road until 1492.

I think there's pretty solid research proving a Levantine origin (with stops along the way, northern Iberia for one) for the Irish . . . or at least one wave of Irish settlers.

25 posted on 08/20/2014 3:39:34 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: PapaBear3625
If they were able to interbreed with the newcomers from Africa then they were not a different species, they were just another race of human.

At the margins, the lines between "species" are blurry, not sharp (as Darwinian evolution would predict). No one thinks lions and tigers are the same species, or that dogs and wolves are, but there are occasional succcesful matings between lions and tigers and between wolves and dogs.

26 posted on 08/20/2014 3:44:03 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Fractal Trader

http://www.nature.com/news/modern-human-genomes-reveal-our-inner-neanderthal-1.14615


27 posted on 08/20/2014 3:48:34 PM PDT by Brother Cracker ( Mossberg 500 helps me deal with being old and cranky)
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To: Fractal Trader

subscription only — this post amounts to an advertisement for WSJ.


28 posted on 08/20/2014 4:22:41 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Kackikat

You do understand that theories are the highest level of proof in science don’t you? Newton’s laws of motion were corrected by Einstein’s theories. Electricity is understood, in part, by circuit theory. You understand this stuff, right?


29 posted on 08/20/2014 4:47:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Fractal Trader

“Neanderthals originally emerged from Africa...”

I don’t see how this is possible. Did they all leave, leaving the continent completely before the negroes moved in ?


30 posted on 08/20/2014 4:47:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Just another Joe

Well, somebody had to talk about how interbreeding took place, and the mechanics of the process, and whether Laz would be involved...,..


31 posted on 08/20/2014 4:49:21 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Kackikat
If they couldn’t get it right the first time, why would I think they know now?

Cause you gotta have...


32 posted on 08/20/2014 4:52:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Fractal Trader

why we triumphed while the better adapted and similarly intelligent Neanderthals were killed off by their enemies.

there fixed it.


33 posted on 08/20/2014 4:55:05 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: mountainlion
I liked the study that said we had 80% of the DNA of a CARROT.

Latest study shows that half the population has less intelligence than a CARROT.

34 posted on 08/20/2014 4:59:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Gee. I often wandered what happened to that Mad Max Kid.


35 posted on 08/20/2014 5:03:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: PapaBear3625; mountainlion

Think about this-

Celts and ..... Teutons.

King Tut. King Teuton. King Teutoncommon. King Tutankhamun.


36 posted on 08/20/2014 5:12:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Latest study shows that half the population has less intelligence than a CARROT.

Seen any statistics on how many are dumber than rocks?


37 posted on 08/20/2014 5:14:40 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion
Is there a scientific source outside the financial community.

Is the search limited to just this planet?

38 posted on 08/20/2014 5:15:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Born to Conserve

You do know that only shows up when you click on the link ?


39 posted on 08/20/2014 5:17:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Just another Joe
Are we sure Laz DIDN'T hit it?

Or it's mother.

40 posted on 08/20/2014 5:18:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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