Posted on 03/13/2014 10:30:55 AM PDT by george76
Last year, Susan Patton, a Princeton grad and the mother of two sons at the elite college, outraged feminists when she wrote an open letter to the Daily Princetonian telling female students to find a husband on campus before they graduate.
The red alert — which argued that these Ivy League college girls “would never again be surrounded by this concentration of men who would be worthy of you” — went viral with more than 100 million hits.
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even in the dog-eat-dog dating jungle that is New York, there is hope for single career women between the ages of 22 and 35 (yes, that’s her cutoff) who also want marriage and babies.
“These women are spinsters-in-training, but they can turn it around
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
So wrong on many levels
If a woman puts you in the "friend zone" that means she isn't attracted to you. Once you are in the friend zone it's almost impossible to get out. Marriage with you is the last thing she has on her mind.
The sad reality is if you are in the "friend zone", more than likely she is just sleeping with some other/multiple players & thugs, but she is using you to fill her emotional needs.
You are basically subsidizing some other guy's penis, you do the work & spend the money, but it's the other guy who gets the prize.
“Marriage with you is the last thing she has on her mind.”
Wrong. Marriage is always on a woman’s mind. She may very well want to marry you. She just doesn’t want to sleep with you without being married.
And if you don’t understand that, you don’t understand a word of my post. You read the words “friend zone” and started typing about “work” and “money.” Which is exactly the point I was making — sex is not the price women want to pay for some guy buying them dinner.
There was no “friend zone” in the dating culture fifty years ago. Think about why.
“Wow, I am sure Boston is similar.”
I’m no NY pro, but, the similarities are there.
Yes; yet, I know that I’ve seen men make the wrong choices and wonder why on earth there are no decent women. I see it on here all the time. Men have expiration dates too, they have longer, but unless they start making a choice to settle down, their choices will get younger until the man in question becomes a punch line.
I see it all the time, men bypassing the quiet girls for tarts, then complain about getting taken to the divorce cleaners. A lot of women dedicate themselves to a career since after all, there are a lot of men disinclined towards marriage. So women have to support themselves somehow.
What none of them bargained for is that every one of them is a ball-buster. Strident (shrill), demanding, critical, and two of them are physically vicious.
As a result two are completely cowed, one is seeking divorce, and one is determined to drink himself to death.
I feel bad for them but they made their choices.
Which means that guys need to wise up and move on. Time spent with a girl who has put you in the "friend zone" is time not spent on finding a girl who will be your mate.
As you noted, once you are in the "friend zone", that means she has no sexual interest in you, nor is she likely to ever have sexual interest in you, so it's best to not have further to do with her, and keep looking.
Terminology definition: to be in her "friend zone" means she has no sexual interest, but is willing to let you hang out and listen to her angst about her serious relationships.
This is different from a girl having sexual interest, but wanting to wait a bit to make sure that you are marriage material.
"Eddie....I want to talk to yooooooooooo......What have you done for me lately?"
Yes, there are girls who are funny, have intellectual depth, and are enjoyable company. Then again, my buddy Vinnie has all those qualities, but with far less baggage, drama, and demands for "commitment". The one quality he DOESN'T have, is he doesn't sexually excite me (something he would certainly be very relieved to hear).
The first prerequisite is that the woman give the guy a hard-on. If she can't accomplish that, then she has no advantage over his male friends. If, ON TOP OF THAT BASIC REQUIREMENT, she is a good person who's fun to be with, then she's a winner.
Encourage your daughter to get healthy. Not only will she have her pick of men, but she’ll have a better life with or without them and she’ll be happier.
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My daughter is healthy. She was adopted at birth. She is a big woman, she was a big baby, thirty pounds at 8 months in an organic vegan household. Big boned, big everything. Docs say she is as healthy as could be. Up here in Maine we call ‘em “Rugged”. As in “Gawsh, Albert, your wife is some rugged.”
Young women created the “friend zone” as a way to spend time with men, while working around the sex-on-the-third-date-culture they were born into. Don’t hate the players; hate the game.
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I am not sure that is true. Friend zone as far as I can see is a place that girls get to pretend that lots of guys are friends and it is like notched in their belts. The girls know they have the upper hand in the game. Sort of a who is popular game girls play among themselves.
Love your story. Best wishes to you and your bride.
Wise words.
Not trying to be harsh,but: If your daughter is all you say she is, she could exercise more and eat less. Don’t blame men. They can decide to date or not date someone for their own reasons.
At least she has the power to change since it is not some physical deformity. It really is up to her.
No kidding. I know plenty of Jewish men who went for asian women thinking that they were escaping ambitious domineering women with family issues. Same course, spices and heartburn they never say coming.
Well, yes, sexual attraction is important.
One thing men should look out for, is how willing is a woman in question willing to give it up. The more a woman gives before marriage, the less of it she’s going to give AFTER marriage. Funnily, before marriage if it’s lingerie and silk/lace teddies, it’s often sweatpants and cotton shirts with big thick white cotton underwear after marriage.
All advertising is false. What a woman advertises, is what disappears after the honeymoon. Once men realize that they’ll start being a lot smarter about their choices.
I also think the married women who throw themselves at you are psychologically disturbed. Most promiscuous women are.
I remember how Jodi Arias threw herself at Travis Alexander and she kept it up nonstop. She was a dream girl mistress, but she ended up butchering him so ruthlessly.
I’ll be frank when I tell you that the biggest reason I think men should be encouraged to abstain is because there are way too many psychopaths out there who think that just because they decided that you are The One, that you should go along with it, or ELSE...
This is why I’m glad I’ve abstained; I’ve avoided regrets, I’ve avoided baggage, and I’ve avoided a lot of pain. I’ve had a few acquaintances who got stalked after having flings and had to really straighten themselves out.
The way guys define "friend zone", is that the girl will hang out, but have no sexual/romantic interest. This is especially the case if she is having sex with other guys, but not with him.
If a guy is just interested in sex, but not commitment, if he falsely strings her along by letting her think that there's a possibility of future commitment if she's nice enough to him, then her smarter friends will tell the girl "He's just using you, dump him".
Similarly, if a girl is just interested in companionship, but not sex, if she falsely strings him along by letting him think that someday she will be in a sexual relationship with him if he's nice enough to her, but meanwhile her sexual interest is with other men, then the guy's friends will tell him "she's just using you, dump her".
Not always the case. After 30 years and several kids, my wife and I still have sex four or five times a week (down from the initial ten times a week the first year).
Not trying to be harsh,but: If your daughter is all you say she is, she could exercise more and eat less. Don’t blame men. They can decide to date or not date someone for their own reasons.
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YOu are not harsh. Believe me, it isn’t about diet and exercise. She is just big just like some people are tall.
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