Selco On Collapse Survival: “Nature is Brutal… Everyone’s Life is In Danger”

SHTF School ^ | 12-13-13 | Selco

[dynachrome]

Right (good, truth, God…) is on my side, I (we) will prevail, win, survive…

Forget it. Nobody cares for reasons and what is right and what is wrong when SHTF. If you think that you have an advantage just because you are good man you are so wrong.

The first thing that completely breaks apart is the concept of good will win or “fairness.” We only have these ideas because of living so far removed from nature.

Nature is brutal and good dead man is still a dead man. You’re gonna find yourself in situations when you wonder why this guy died and why this family vanished. People now hope for system, like epic fight of good vs evil. Not gonna happen.

Everyone’s life is in danger, we are just preparing to make it harder for nature and others to get ours.

And history is written by the winners, so do not trust too much in it. Very rarely are you gonna see the full and true story of survival without make up either because political or commercial reasons.

[driftdiver]

Our biggest problem here in. Florida during hurricanes is boredom

[greeneyes]

I might spike the coffee with sleeping pills. I am not one to panic either. Usually, I try to be prepared.

I do however, worry that one day something unexpected will happen, and I will panic and do something really stupid, cause you never know for sure how you’ll react until you have faced a situation or something very similar.

[greeneyes]

Thanks for the ping. I just wanted to mention that Emergency Essentials has several items on sale. I don’t know how their sale prices compare with other sites, as I haven’t had time to check it out.

[B4Ranch]

That is quite a story. I wish to thank you on behalf of the many people who have never considered that aspect of their marriage.

[outofsalt]

Thanks for sharing Marcella.
My father in law has dementia but is generally upbeat and happy to be in the company of his family. Occasionally, something will darken his mood and he can be very difficult to calm. He is still an imposing man though up in years and he scares his wife when this happens. She has learned to slip him a Mickey to calm him. (Xanax or Valium)

Anxiety can be managed but if it leans towards violence or self destructive actions one should be prepared to subdue and restrain the person for everyone’s well being. Hospitals do this and even the astronauts have a contingency plan for a psychiatric emergency in space.

I think a stun gun is a valuable tool and duct tape is critical. The mindset to act is sharpest when considered ahead of a bad situation.

FReegards!

[papertyger]

I do however, worry that one day something unexpected will happen, and I will panic and do something really stupid, cause you never know for sure how you’ll react until you have faced a situation or something very similar.

That's a very insightful thought.

I have noticed that during an emergency everyone's IQ seems to drop about twenty points. The only remedy I'm aware of is detailed prior planning. People always default to what they know when facing what they don't.

People in my line of work have noticed this for years. We move up the ladder of responsibility in an orderly and predictable fashion. When someone moves up to a new position and encounters a problem they're not prepared to handle, they invariably default back to their prior position and start carrying out the tasks of that position even though there is a junior person already doing those tasks.

I think Jack Spirco's concentric rings of disaster is an excellent model to begin ones planning efforts.

[mountainlion]

Right (good, truth, God…) is on my side, I (we) will prevail, win, survive…

Forget it. Nobody cares for reasons and what is right and what is wrong when SHTF. If you think that you have an advantage just because you are good man you are so wrong.

This is totally wrong is my point. Nothing like this happened in my area during the Colorado flooding. People got together to pull together. The thieves were pretty well known and watched. There was enough to go around and the government brought in more. I don’t believe in this hate and discontent author.

[Lazamataz]

Taze the spouse.

It’s the only way to be sure.

[The Bat Lady]

Thank you so much Marcella for your story. just wow!

I have followed your prepper advice for a long time here on FR. I had NO IDEA that you were 80. All I can say is that you have given me much to think about.

My hubby and I prep together and have recently gone Galt so I wouldn’t expect the two of us to have a nervous breakdown but now I can see that it can happen.

I liked the idea of stun gun and duct tape. Good advice on this thread.

[Marcella]

“I have followed your prepper advice for a long time here on FR. I had NO IDEA that you were 80. My hubby and I prep together and have recently gone Galt so I wouldn’t expect the two of us to have a nervous breakdown but now I can see that it can happen.”

Just forget the 80, it doesn’t mean anything to me. My husband was 11 years younger than I am and people thought he was the older one. When I have to go to a new doctor, I tell him, I am not the person he is seeing on the surface, that the dermatologist says my skin didn’t wrinkle due to good genes and staying out of the sun. I tell him my parts are 80 underneath this skin.

I hope what I have posted about prepping has helped you. I write prepper articles on Survival Podcast and they start at this link:

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=24168.0

[TEXOKIE]

bttt

[painter]

Did it look silly for an older woman to be trying on helmets?

Not to me. If I saw a 75yr woman trying on motorcycle helmet not knowing why she was buying it I would have been impressed. WOW,an old lady who rides a motorcycle!

[painter]

Maybe somebody shot a dog and ate him.

I have a friend who ate dog when he was in Vietnam. He said it was quite good. He was a radioman for a Vietnamese ranger unit and they had their own cook with them and they ate dog every once in awhile.

He said their cook could kill and Field dress a wild pig before it stopped squealing.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

You were surrounded by places in Colorado that were doing perfectly fine. Selco’s entire country collapsed. I’m not sure how well you would have fared, if not only the mountain areas and Boulder were down, but also Denver, Fort Collins, Cheyenne, Albuquerque, St. George, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, Kansas City, etc.

[mountainlion]

It seems to me that the Balkins was a war where the muslim Barbarians were performing their ethnic clenching and not really a civil war. The only type of anything like a civil war here would be a coordinated government attack against the people since there is no muslim majority. The mountains are a good place to defend a country: Afghanistan comes to mind. I think this community could hold out for a year or so without the goberment.

[gundog]

Every trime I watch that movie, I try to figure out why there’s a guy messing around with a Mosin-Nagant 91-30 sniper rifle in one scene.

[SisterK]

and everytime I watch that movie, I wonder if the music is a little post WWII
no time for historical or technical accuracy

[gundog]

Lalo Schifren and Hank Williams, Jr. The M-N was involved in WW2, but these troops hadn’t yet hooked up with the Soviets. I wondered if maybe the US made M-Ns could be involved, but research says no.

[greeneyes]

I am familiar with Concentric Circles of Security, Concentric Circles of Fear, Concentric Circles of Urban development, and Adleson and Gray’s Concentric Circles of disaster.

However I am not familiar with Jack Spiro and his particular theories. The model I have followed has been to concentrate first on self and family, then neighborhood, then city, then county, then state, then national and finally International.

I have more control over self and family than anything else, but the plans and likely actions of the rest of the world has to be considered, while I may have some influence due to civic activities and volunteer work, those circles are not under my control.