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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 48 NOVEMBER 29, 2013
11/29/13 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/29/2013 3:57:22 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: Marcella

Rosemary is so fragrant, it’s enough to just have it and smell it, but it is great with lots of stuff chicken, fish, meats, breads, etc. Here’s a link to get you started:

http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,using_fresh_rosemary,FF.html


141 posted on 12/01/2013 10:00:27 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

I would cut off the bad looking part at the top of the squash, and dispose of it as a precaution.

So you have finally got to eat some of that squash, and you really liked it. That is super. So glad you enjoyed it.


142 posted on 12/01/2013 10:03:11 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Well I finally did manage to get my garlic in. Tilled up the patch on Saturday and planted yesterday. I need to get it under some mulch but my compost heap is pretty much used up. I suppose I’ll have to make a trip to the horse college for some stall sweepings but my trailer is tied up at the sawmill. Maybe rent a dump trailer next weekend if I can get the starter for my loader tractor fixed by then. That would take a lot of work out of that project for sure.


143 posted on 12/02/2013 6:19:59 AM PST by Augie
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To: Arrowhead1952

I planted 3 tiny pots of rosemary around the deck to my garden shed. They are huge. They are beautiful. Now I need to start sharing some.


144 posted on 12/02/2013 6:38:09 AM PST by tillacum
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To: greeneyes
I ordered from Bountiful Gardens, “Food for the Future, Now:”. I think that is the one you got some time ago. I kept trying to find that book on that website and I was failing to punch on the right spot to get to that book. This one is the beginner one to use smaller spaces to feed yourself for a year. There may be something in that book that leads me to plant something I haven't thought about. This one is number 34 which may not be the one you have but it sounds like it from the way you have talked about this book in the past.

You are a terrific prepper even if you don't call yourself one. You call it a way of life but you're still a prepper - “a rose by any other name is still a rose”.

145 posted on 12/02/2013 7:02:11 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: JRandomFreeper

Have you tried cornstarch on the ant hills? It seems to work for me. Don’t know if it kills them or they dislike it so much they move....


146 posted on 12/02/2013 7:10:57 AM PST by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: tillacum

I’ve given several plants to neighbors as well as limbs for cooking. I didn’t know how large the bushes get when I planted it, and it has basically taken away half of my eight foot yard gate.


147 posted on 12/02/2013 7:32:52 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: greeneyes

OH my! Prayers for your family, and joining your gratitude that everyone is ok. Stuff, while necessary, is still stuff.

I’m not sure we’re REALLY ready, but we’ve done SOME things! Yesterday I raked the leaves out of the ditch so Darlin could follow with the mower and grind them up. Not to the point yet of collecting them for compost, but at least I’m thinking on it! LOL!

Getting ready today for a Christmas party tomorrow. After that, one down and 2 more to go!


148 posted on 12/02/2013 8:27:33 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Thanks for the clip! In the comments below the clip, TexasPrepper shows how he kills squash bugs. [”Squash Bugs Must Die!”] He uses nothing but soapy water in his garden sprayer. Must squirt them directly in order to kill them, but it WILL kill them!


149 posted on 12/02/2013 8:52:41 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Soapy water is good for a variety of bugs.

I’m thinking of using a cattle panel arch like he did.


150 posted on 12/02/2013 9:07:25 AM PST by rightly_dividing (Phil. 4:13)
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To: rightly_dividing

Yeah, I agree...that cattle panel arch is pretty cool!


151 posted on 12/02/2013 10:29:42 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Thanks for the prayers. They are needed. We haven’t done anything much about leaves. I will probably get out and clear off the patios one of these nice days. Hubby hasn’t even bothered to run the mower over them.

We still have plenty clinging to the oak trees. If he follows what he did this year, He’ll collect them for compost in the early pre spring spot of nice weather.

We have some combo manure, and sawdust coming from a friend whe gets stuff like that for free. I think he said it’s good for taters.


152 posted on 12/02/2013 12:14:14 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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Does anyone have experience growing ‘Arp’ rosemary? It is supposed to be hardy through Z6.


153 posted on 12/02/2013 12:17:58 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Marcella
I think you are correct. That is the most recent one. I have ordered 2-3 books are year from them, and have a couple that discuss how to get more veggies/produce from your space, as well as several sample garden plans to grow for good all round nutrition.

I started doing all this stuff long before I ever heard the word “prepper”. I grew up with family doing all this stuff. It's a way of life to me - people without a lot of money doing what they need to do to protect their family and survive whatever hard times might come their way.

If they want to call me a prepper for that, it's ok. I am just a country gal trying to survive in a subdivision in rural America. If I ever get a fall out shelter built in a corner of the basement, then I'll be a real true prepper.LOL

154 posted on 12/02/2013 12:24:25 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Augie

I surrounded my garlic on three sides with some milk jugs of water, and the bed is backed by a concrete wall on the north east side. Then I put a double layer of row covers on it. Leaves fall on it, but the little fence and milk jugs keep it off the ground, and the plants have plenty of room to grow.

I can roll the row cover along with the leaves etc back a bit so the sun can shine it on warm, sunny days. Mostly, I just forget about it till spring. Usually does pretty good.


155 posted on 12/02/2013 12:29:35 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; Marcella

—I started doing all this stuff long before I ever heard the word “prepper”.—

That’s me, I had never heard the word till a few years ago on FR. Before moving to Texas, we lived in hurricane country where we were threatened usually several times a year, most years, and suffered hits quite often, four times in ‘05. Smart folks kept canned food, batteries, candles or oil lamps, gas cans, duct tape, plywood, generators, and such stocked up long before someone yelled “hurricane” and the mad rush to clean out the stores began. All I had to do was make a trip to the gas station and we were ready. We keep enough food on hand to feed us for about two months, which is more than plenty.

With all that being said, I don’t consider us to be preppers, at least not in the typical sense. Without access to a pharmacy, all the other preparations would be useless anyway for us.

I guess I will now incur the wrath of all the real preppers now :)


156 posted on 12/02/2013 1:25:05 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Phil. 4:13)
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To: greeneyes

I managed to get my saffron crocuses ordered and in the ground. Well, into some really big pots for this season. We have to build a protected place for it long term. Apparently moles, voles and other critters will dig them out and carry them away. So we’ve scouted a place to dig out, put in a hardware cloth bottom layer and fill in with good composted dirt and mulch.

Hopefully this little project will work out.


157 posted on 12/02/2013 1:27:22 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: rightly_dividing
The name, “prepper”, wasn't around when I began to prepare and I prepared first of all due to hurricanes and that was 1998. Serious people who prepared were called “survivalists”. Someone could have slapped that label on me then. However, survivalists were more into heavy gun power than water/food. That slowly changed as more “regular” people began to store for bad weather and earthquakes in California. I think the word, “prepper” came about shortly after the internet came into being as I never heard that term until then.

The definition of prepper is someone who prepares for emergencies so I am a prepper. It only takes one bad emergency to turn many people into preppers.

I could say I'm not a prepper, I just store in case of a hurricane. That is a case of semantics, if you don't like that word, then don't consider yourself one.

I am a prepper because I prepare and that's what a prepper is, and I will teach as many as I can how to survive an emergency, no matter what type emergency that is.

New words come into being when something needs to be described. A group of people who prepare for emergencies take that normal route for a new word and it makes total sense the word would be preppers because that is what they do. When this generation of people die off, there will be no resistance to being called a “prepper” because that word will be the only one they have heard all their lives related to preparing.

You have lived through a historical period of a new word being formed and used.

158 posted on 12/02/2013 2:07:25 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: TEXOKIE

Txprepper grow arches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL4euILCNYM


159 posted on 12/02/2013 2:19:05 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Phil. 4:13)
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To: Black Agnes

I hope so too. If it does, I might try some too.


160 posted on 12/02/2013 6:55:34 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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