Posted on 10/25/2013 8:02:43 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
Folks, if you have read me recently you know that I've said that you are the problem and that the reason this is true is that you won't go on strike, you won't picket DC and refuse to leave until the government stops stealing from you and debasing the currency, you won't reduce your spending and income to only that which provides necessities, and most of you go on to justify your behavior with "my kids (and/or family) deserve what I can provide."
You're fools and I'm going to prove it.
Further, I'm going to prove -- by arithmetic -- that if you follow the above path you will destroy yourself along with your children and grandchildren.
Here's why.
There were 108,592,000 people in the United States in the fourth quarter of 2011 who were recipients of one or more means-tested government benefit programs, the Census Bureau said in data released this week. Meanwhile, according to the Census Bureau, there were 101,716,000 people who worked full-time year round in 2011. That included both private-sector and government workers.
None of the people getting means-tested government benefits will ever vote to reduce them, nor vote for any politician that will reduce them.
But it's factually much worse than it first appears because federal government workers will not vote to fire themselves either, just as the 17th Amendment (ed: The worst thing to ever happen to this country) is inviolate because The Senate will never vote to fire itself.
So we must in fact subtract 21,880,000 from the full-time worker count.
In other words you're outvoted by 36%.
Does it make sense yet? This is not a small margin and it cannot be politically reversed because the margins are too high. Were the skew relatively small (and it looks small until you subtract out federal workers) you could potentially do so, because some people won't vote and you could "motivate the base." But note that with the federal workers out, and we're not subtracting the State workers, which also exist on this same largesse, you can't get there because this means nearly 40% of those receiving such benefits would have to stay home when reductions are proposed, and they never will.
As such you cannot vote your way out of this.
You cannot politically organize your way out of this.
You can't do it in the Democrat Party and you can't do it in the Republican Party. Nor can you do it in a third party.
Every single person who argues otherwise is an idiot or worse, a fraudster (if they have run the numbers above.)
Delusions persist because people don't examine the facts in detail. I recognize that I participated in attempting to politically change things for far too long because I did not look, in detail, at the math.
But I can no longer make any logical argument that political activism is useful in any way, shape or form. It is a waste of energy, time and money that I can expend elsewhere on something that brings me more joy, rather than tilting at windmills.
There is only one remaining peaceful way to change things: Withdraw your consent and thus intentionally but peacefully and lawfully destabilize the underpinning of the government debt market, thereby denying the government the means to continue screwing you, your children and grandchildren irrespective of the vote count.
The only other choices remaining are consenting to your own economic death, along with that of your children and grandchildren, or violence.
If you claim that you will "get yours" for "your kids" (or your spouse, or just yourself) you're deluding yourself as the odds are that (1) you will fail and (2) even if you "succeed" the victory will be both temporary and pyrrhic as you cannot overcome the voting block deficiency.
In short, read this Ticker again in light of the above mathematical facts.
Then act, or not, but the math doesn't care if you agree with it or not.
Swell, somebody new to try to stampede me.
I dont think you are exactly following the authors point....nor mine in response. Or are you telling me that govt workers, even libertarians, always vote Dem 100%?
Because that was the authors assumption.....and it was only that assumption that I was objecting to. If you will read, I think you will find that I am in general agreement with the thesis...to a degree.....just not to the degree the author posits.
Secession does not mean Civil War will follow......
....There is only one remaining peaceful way to change things: Withdraw your consent and thus intentionally but peacefully and lawfully destabilize the underpinning of the government debt market, thereby denying the government the means to continue screwing you, your children and grandchildren irrespective of the vote count. The only other choices remaining are consenting to your own economic death, along with that of your children and grandchildren, or violence.
IOW learn to live on so little (enough for the necessities but not the niceties) that the govt. cannot function on the taxes that you still generate.
.... they will continue to print money. This has to lead to an eventually crash of that money’s purchasing power.
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It’s OK , the gov’t workers will get quarterly increases to match inflation ... don’t worry.
He also ignores spouses and adult children of conservative working voters.
And I agree with your conclusion on Government workers. I worked for local governments in a Union job for 24 years and never once voted for a Democrat at any level. Unions and the Democrat party are a criminal enterprise.
Yep, he overcooked his grits. I mean, he has some very valid points...and in the long run, he might well be right (not that he’s the only or first to say this) - but he used faulty math to prove his point....which he ended up weakening.....
Petronius— what this whackjob paranoid is advocating is ASSISTING the Cloward Piven plans of the marxists. To sit back and “withdraw your consent and... destabilize... the govt. debt market”. This is specious in terms of the very numbers he cites.
Truth is that the systems of disbursement CAN be taken over through political power shift to the conservatives. There are MANY kinds of fungible “money” available within these systems. First and foremost is the concept to all of Freedom.
Not slavery through the “wagon riding” freeloaders. All humans, even the illegals seek freedom, that is those who are not trying to enslave the others. Identify those and eliminate them— peacefully of course (however that peace can be obtained).
Amazing that with the help of the MSM, 535 pols can run a great country of 300 million into the ground.
The author is saying that NEITHER party is dealing with mathematical reality. As a government worker it was ‘safe’ to vote R or L or not at all because the MAJORITY voted D and always will. They will NEVER bite the hand that feeds them. NEVER. Until one of the major parties stands up and tells the truth regarding mathematical fiscal realities(they won’t)the nation is headed for economic collapse. One supports the status-quo by continued contributions to the system and in effect supports the coming mathematical crap storm or one ‘protests’ in a nonviolent way by not contributing. I understand perfectly, do you?
No, that’s not exactly what the author is saying, or is not all the author was saying.
And that’s beside the point....so I’ll type slowly for you.
He used math that proves liberals will always win every election for ever and ever.....and THAT Was MY
ONLY
POINT.
slow enough for you?
Besides, I agreed with a lot of what was said.
Let me repeat, I agree with some of his bigger points.
Once again, he is not all wrong.
Slow enough?
Please, tell me of this ‘conservative’ political movement of which you speak that has the will/power to change the monied interests presently in control.....
There are, of course other systems available beyond the reach of the “monied interests”. Regardless of interest rates— and it may very well come to that. The “movement”is extra-political, frankly.
Because “Country Boys Can Survive”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwzYhVL5Sc
Liberals will not win if the numbers they are providing the slave/voter masses do not add up. Most people with any sense of self (even a stupid self) will not live on the teat forever, nor do they wish to pay for it with their money (not as much problem with someone elses money paying for it— but then the “somebody else” eventually cannot manage it, no matter how much borrowed or QE money is given them).
Exactly— thank you Dr.
See my post #34 Deo Vindice.
bkmk
The soviet system of this “closed” govt-taxbased-”private full time contractors” will eventually collapse of it’s own unsupportable weight.
The goal of the extra sovereign debt holders is quite again another thing. Those debt holders can be denied— by force if needed. Like the UK has been and the Euro is starting to be responded to. It is NOT our CAN to kick down the road or finance— and we can decide not to without anything other than a patriotic decision to stop this.
OK; I'm talking about the blue state of Maryland here; but I've posted about this before -- acquaintances of mine work for the county board of elections distributing absentee ballots to senior citizen homes and helping the old people cast their votes if they cannot see to write. The votes are overwhelmingly Democrat, and seniors never meet a spending bill they don't approve of, if only to be "nice" and envision those schools, roads, and parklands the bills are ostensibly for -- when in reality, large portions of the billions they approve will line the pockets of politicians and unionists.
Last year, the seniors even voted FOR gay marriage, believing the political agenda to be that gays want to be married, when in reality the Marxist/Alinsky agenda is what the gay lobby wants -- to destroy the understanding of sexual morality and the protection of children in a traditional JudeoChristian society.
That’s all well and good. You can also choose to ignore politics as well
That’s the answer that many take and their perfectly happy with it
America willNOT collapse. Mark my words.
All the monies in the world are just numbers on computers
Anyone who believes in something greater knows that money in its entirety is simply a meaningless game
LOVE is what the master taught.
And HE taught us what about the ‘money changers’ ?
What about the treasures of this earth?
Hmmmmmmmm
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