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Mark Levin Addresses Ted Cruz Eligibility Issue posed by Ridgewood, NJ Man at Book Signing
The Ridgewood Blog ^ | August 27, 2013 | PJBlogger

Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey

Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013

[start at 0:26 of the podcast recording]

Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.

Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasn’t that unbelievable?

Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.

Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.

Staffer: [chuckles]

Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders… I don’t know the sexual preferences, that wasn’t a requirement to say hello…young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so… I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tyson’s Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day…you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground….

[stop at 3:01 of the podcast recording]

[restart at 59:22 of the podcast recording]

Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!

Steve: Great one, it’s great to talk to you, what an honor.

Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.

Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend…

Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.

Steve: …I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. She’s not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny ‘cause she said “He is so calm, Steve.” He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And…

Mark Levin: Uh huh.

Steve: she said “He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didn’t raise his voice, or get upset…

Mark Levin: [chuckles]

Steve: …or anything!”

Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]

Steve: …and I laughed so hard. I said “How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell?” [laughs] “I just listen to Mark.” And she knows you’re my hero, I go around quotin’ ya, and tellin’ everybody to listen to ya, and…

Mark Levin: Well, that’s great.

Steve: she just … to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]

Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh…well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her it’s passion, you know, and um…what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what I’d written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didn’t have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?

Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times he’s got the left wingers on there, and it’s just, kind, it’s almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and…and it didn’t get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it…it’s just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um…we’ve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.

Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And he’s got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I…I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, I’m so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time. And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. He’s not a natural-born Citizen.” And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you…you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I…I assume they’re going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like ‘em or not for president I’m just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now they’re the birthers. But some of it’s coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and there’s no end to it, on a matter like this, and there’s nothing I can say or point to that’s going to change their mind. But in my view there’s no doubt about it that he’s eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So…that’s my opinion! You may not like it… But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth. I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. He’s the only one…oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what…he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I don’t know what he was screamin’ about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasn’t anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji…you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh… at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi…oh there is now? The…the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or…just the Long Island. But we’ll put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!

[stop at 67:00 of the podcast recording]

(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Society
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; citizenship; congress; cruz; cruzmissle; electionfraud; eligibility; fraud; govtabuse; jr4cruz; levin; libertyamendments; marklevin; mediabias; naturalborncitizen; randsconcerntrolls; talkradio; teaparty; tedcruz; texas
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A man posed the issue of Ted Cruz's presidential ineligibilty to Mark Levin at a booksigning event at Bookends in Ridgewood, New Jersey on Sunday, August 18th. Mark uses the occasion of his live radio broadcast the next day to discuss the matter. A local Ridgewood Blog picked up on the story. Do his comments ring true to fellow Freepers?
1 posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Cruz has a Canadian birth certificate. The original intent of the “natural born” requirement for presidents was so that they would not have divided allegiances.

Cruz was born a dual citizen of the US and Canada. According to the original intent of the framers, he is disqualified.


2 posted on 08/27/2013 10:52:04 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Welcome to FR! Food for the nativist trolls around here?


3 posted on 08/27/2013 10:53:12 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Lakeshark; C. Edmund Wright
Ted Cruz for POTUS ping. Mark Levin offers his services as his Constitutional attorney.

On his daily broadcast, Levin explained that he was “so sick of these birthers” after one man, in a hot line at a New Jersey book signing, “gets in my face, points to an obscure note … and says you were wrong about this.” On Cruz? “In my mind there’s no doubt about it. He’s eligible should he choose to run.”

4 posted on 08/27/2013 10:57:12 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: one guy in new jersey

May the good Lord help and protect me for my rash disregard of all prudence and circumspection...and possibly of any vestige of sanity too, in daring to enter, even for just a quick moment, this contentious issue here again. I just bowed out of another FR discussion about it because I definitely didn’t, and don’t, have the time to pursue it.

But alas...one quick comment....Psalm 23... Psalm 23....


The good Mark Levin was right when he qualified his conversation by pointing out this is an issue he has not studied.....

as Mr. Levin said,
“And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen!”

We agree. Mr. Levin has patently not studied this issue.
We agree, Senator Cruz is an American citizen.
But that is not the issue, Mr. Levin.
The issue is whether he can possibly qualify as a Natural Born Citizen. As they say, that’s a Horse of A Different Color.

OK, I’m so far out of this thread now that even Beep Beep the RoadRunner can’t catch my dust.

Bye........


5 posted on 08/27/2013 11:04:49 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: Servant of the Cross; xzins; onyx; txhurl; Timber Rattler
Maybe Levin has been reading our posts........

:-)

6 posted on 08/27/2013 11:12:38 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Triple

What a lack of logic you have. What divided loyalties does Ted Cruz have? Tell me.

Let’s suppose this is a different scenario that has zero connection to Obama: Which I suspect is partly the reason for the birther crap on Cruz (gotta be consistent right?). I’ll make up an example for you to follow. A French baby is born while the mom is in America. She’s a wife whose husband has a job in our country. Soon they go home. Because our law (like Canada’s) confers citizenship automatically on the child, this baby is a dual citizen. The kid lives in France the vast majority of his life and becomes active in French politics. Assume said person has zero record of indicating any allegiance to America. Should his loyalty to France be suspect?


7 posted on 08/27/2013 11:13:56 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: Triple

Cruz has a Canadian birth certificate. The original intent of the “natural born” requirement for presidents was so that they would not have divided allegiances.

Cruz was born a dual citizen of the US and Canada. According to the original intent of the framers, he is disqualified.


This ^


8 posted on 08/27/2013 11:16:07 AM PDT by nesnah
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To: one guy in new jersey

Nobody here as far as I know has said Ted cruz is not an American citizen..

although he was born in another country, his mother was an American citizen, and at least 19 years old...

Ted Cruz was born an American citizen...

the question is “Is he eligible to be president of the United States since he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”...

besides being born in another country his father was not an American citzen at the time of his birth...

If Obama who was born in the US but also without an American citizen father could be said to be ineligible even if he had been born in the Lincoln bedroom, how does Ted Cruz who was born in another country get a pass ???

This has not been acceptably explained in these threads...

Either there is no case for Obama to be ineligible..

or Ted Cruz is also ineligible...

We cant have it both ways...

Even McCain with his overseas birth to TWO American citizen parents and his father stationed overseas in the US military had to prove his eligibility through the Senate to be POTUS...

and Ted Cruz did nopt have both parents as American citizens with a father in the US military sent there by our government..

When I was in the US military and arrived at a US base overseas I was told to go back to the US for any births of children so they would be eligible to be POTUS...

this was 1975...5 years after Ted Cruz was born...

I knew that my son born the year before in the US was not eigible to be POTUS...

I was not an American citizen at the time and was not naturalized as an American citizen until he was 8 months old..

you can argue until you are blue in the face but that was the law when my son was born in 1974...

So if Obama is not eligible, neither is Ted Cruz...

these laws are not a smoresborg...

they are the same for everyone...


9 posted on 08/27/2013 11:19:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: one guy in new jersey

Signs up today, posts one article and then doesn’t answer any of the posts. Looks like zotbait to me.


10 posted on 08/27/2013 11:21:40 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

http://birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html

Everyone should read this and absorb it. It’s really quite simple.


11 posted on 08/27/2013 11:24:18 AM PDT by nesnah
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To: nesnah

what does it say ???


12 posted on 08/27/2013 11:26:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: nesnah; Jeff Winston
You should read and absorb this. It's really quite simple.

"It is not necessary that a man should be born in this country, to be 'a natural born citizen.' It is only requisite that he should be a citizen by birth, and that is the case with all the children of citizens who have ever resided in this country, though born in a foreign country." ... James Bayard, A Brief Exposition of the Constitution of the United States (1833)

p.s. There’s not the slightest damn evidence anywhere that the Framers of the Constitution gave Vattel any more credence on the “definition” of citizenship than they did on his views that only the elites and the military should be allowed to keep and bear arms.

13 posted on 08/27/2013 11:28:55 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The Cliff Notes version very clearly indicates that a “natural born citizen” is one born in a country whose parents are both citizens of that country. No chance whatsoever of foreign allegiance or sympathy AT ALL.

That last sentence was the defining intent of the term.

As a disclaimer, I do absolutely LOVE Ted Cruz and think him an amazing Senator.

But, we gotta be consistent.


14 posted on 08/27/2013 11:29:38 AM PDT by nesnah
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To: BJ1

Yes - The baby is a dual citizen. France is free to deal with that split allegiance as France pleases.

In the US we impose a very limited restriction on citizens that may have divided loyalty - They just can’t be President.

Have a nice day.


15 posted on 08/27/2013 11:29:55 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Tennessee Nana; one guy in new jersey
I knew that my son born the year before in the US was not eigible to be POTUS...

I was not an American citizen at the time and was not naturalized as an American citizen until he was 8 months old..

you can argue until you are blue in the face but that was the law when my son was born in 1974...


Please take this in the respect I mean it in. Your "knowledge" notwithstanding.

Same question TNana I've been asking everyone else:

Show me in the US Constitution where your opinion/position/knowledge is codified that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".

Lacking that, please provide the relevant US Law(s) passed by Congress and signed by a US President that codifies your understanding/opinion/knowledge that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".

Lacking that, please point us to the relevant US Supreme Court decision/ruling that proves that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".
16 posted on 08/27/2013 11:30:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: BJ1; Triple
"What a lack of logic you have. What divided loyalties does Ted Cruz have? Tell me."

While he doesn't display, or act on divided loyalites...he most certainly owes allegiance to Cananda [1][2].

17 posted on 08/27/2013 11:30:42 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Servant of the Cross; onyx; xzins
I just can't help myself....


18 posted on 08/27/2013 11:32:29 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Triple
Cruz has a Canadian birth certificate. The original intent of the “natural born” requirement for presidents was so that they would not have divided allegiances.

Cruz was born a dual citizen of the US and Canada. According to the original intent of the framers, he is disqualified.


Show me in the US Constitution where your opinion/position/knowledge is codified that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".

Lacking that, please provide the relevant US Law(s) passed by Congress and signed by a US President that codifies your understanding/opinion/knowledge that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".

Lacking that, please point us to the relevant US Supreme Court decision/ruling that proves that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be "Natural Born".
19 posted on 08/27/2013 11:33:39 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Show me in the US Constitution where your opinion/position/knowledge is codified that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be “Natural Born”.

Lacking that, please provide the relevant US Law(s) passed by Congress and signed by a US President that codifies your understanding/opinion/knowledge that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be “Natural Born”.

Lacking that, please point us to the relevant US Supreme Court decision/ruling that proves that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be “Natural Born”.


All three questions could be asked in reverse as well. That’s why this is such an important discussion.


20 posted on 08/27/2013 11:34:14 AM PDT by nesnah
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