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To: nesnah; Jeff Winston
You should read and absorb this. It's really quite simple.

"It is not necessary that a man should be born in this country, to be 'a natural born citizen.' It is only requisite that he should be a citizen by birth, and that is the case with all the children of citizens who have ever resided in this country, though born in a foreign country." ... James Bayard, A Brief Exposition of the Constitution of the United States (1833)

p.s. There’s not the slightest damn evidence anywhere that the Framers of the Constitution gave Vattel any more credence on the “definition” of citizenship than they did on his views that only the elites and the military should be allowed to keep and bear arms.

13 posted on 08/27/2013 11:28:55 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross; onyx; xzins
I just can't help myself....


18 posted on 08/27/2013 11:32:29 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you.

If Ted Cruz runs, I will fall over myself running to the voting booth so I can cast my ballot for him.


36 posted on 08/27/2013 11:49:21 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
You should read and absorb this. It's really quite simple.

Since you are quoting Jeff, you should have used the word "simpleton." It's much more accurate.

363 posted on 08/28/2013 6:28:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Servant of the Cross; Lakeshark; BJ1; nesnah; Cyber Liberty; Tennessee Nana; Triple; ...
I pinged you because I found your name in this thread as either a sender or recipient. If you find this objectionable I apologize. I am soliciting your opinion on the following.

Jeff Winston wrote:
I simply repeated Dane's words. Dane was clearly of the opinion that Thomas Jefferson had indeed been made a naturalized citizen of France, and that that naturalized citizenship was real.

Jeff Winston has repeatedly claimed that Thomas Jefferson is a Naturalized Citizen of France based on his reading of Nathan Dane.

It is my position that Nathan Dane is incorrect about this, and that he was very likely duped by a false Claim made by the Albany Register during the Presidential election of 1808.

One of the pieces of evidential support for my position is below. (I have found other sources which claim this as well.) Here is another. And Another. And Another. And Another.

And from "Presidential Campaigns, Slogans, Issues, and Platforms":

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Is the above sufficient to prove that Thomas Jefferson was NOT a citizen of France?

All I ask is a fair hearing of the evidence. A Yes or no answer would be appreciated.

491 posted on 08/30/2013 9:09:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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