Skip to comments.Mark Levin Addresses Ted Cruz Eligibility Issue posed by Ridgewood, NJ Man at Book Signing
Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
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Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasnt that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, werent they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which Ill talk about later.
Mark Levin: This this birther stuff is way, way out of contr Now Ted Cruz I swear I almost hit this guy Ted Cruz is not a citizen! No, hes born to an American mother, no hes born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, theyre not Americans. Theyre not natural-born Americans. I just thought youd wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever None! But its, its just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders I dont know the sexual preferences, that wasnt a requirement to say hello young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tysons Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground .
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, its great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. Shes not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny cause she said He is so calm, Steve. He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didnt raise his voice, or get upset
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: or anything!
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: and I laughed so hard. I said How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell? [laughs] I just listen to Mark. And she knows youre my hero, I go around quotin ya, and tellin everybody to listen to ya, and
Mark Levin: Well, thats great.
Steve: she just to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her its passion, you know, and um what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what Id written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didnt have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times hes got the left wingers on there, and its just, kind, its almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and and it didnt get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it its just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um weve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And hes got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, Im so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I dont know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says You were wrong about this, you were wrong about, and honestly I, I, I didnt have time to read it, and Ill go back and check it, if Im wrong about it Ill fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when youre going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so Im going to check it out, I just havent had time. And then he goes, he says uh And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. Hes not a natural-born Citizen. And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but hes born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesnt that make him a natural-born Ci No, but he was in Canada when he was born! Okay, but she wasnt Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isnt what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mothers an American citizen, so hes an American citizen! Thats not a constitutional issue, thats an interpretive issue or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isnt terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and theres a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I I assume theyre going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like em or not for president Im just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now theyre the birthers. But some of its coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and theres no end to it, on a matter like this, and theres nothing I can say or point to thats going to change their mind. But in my view theres no doubt about it that hes eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So thats my opinion! You may not like it But what particularly bothered me about this guy he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know listening, watching and so forth. Im a big boy; Ive seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. Hes the only one oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I dont know what he was screamin about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasnt anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi oh there is now? The the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or just the Long Island. But well put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
Cruz has a Canadian birth certificate. The original intent of the “natural born” requirement for presidents was so that they would not have divided allegiances.
Cruz was born a dual citizen of the US and Canada. According to the original intent of the framers, he is disqualified.
Welcome to FR! Food for the nativist trolls around here?
On his daily broadcast, Levin explained that he was so sick of these birthers after one man, in a hot line at a New Jersey book signing, gets in my face, points to an obscure note
and says you were wrong about this. On Cruz? In my mind theres no doubt about it. Hes eligible should he choose to run.
May the good Lord help and protect me for my rash disregard of all prudence and circumspection...and possibly of any vestige of sanity too, in daring to enter, even for just a quick moment, this contentious issue here again. I just bowed out of another FR discussion about it because I definitely didn’t, and don’t, have the time to pursue it.
But alas...one quick comment....Psalm 23... Psalm 23....
as Mr. Levin said,
“And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but hes born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesnt that make him a natural-born Ci No, but he was in Canada when he was born! Okay, but she wasnt Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isnt what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mothers an American citizen, so hes an American citizen!”
We agree. Mr. Levin has patently not studied this issue.
We agree, Senator Cruz is an American citizen.
But that is not the issue, Mr. Levin.
The issue is whether he can possibly qualify as a Natural Born Citizen. As they say, that’s a Horse of A Different Color.
OK, I’m so far out of this thread now that even Beep Beep the RoadRunner can’t catch my dust.
What a lack of logic you have. What divided loyalties does Ted Cruz have? Tell me.
Let’s suppose this is a different scenario that has zero connection to Obama: Which I suspect is partly the reason for the birther crap on Cruz (gotta be consistent right?). I’ll make up an example for you to follow. A French baby is born while the mom is in America. She’s a wife whose husband has a job in our country. Soon they go home. Because our law (like Canada’s) confers citizenship automatically on the child, this baby is a dual citizen. The kid lives in France the vast majority of his life and becomes active in French politics. Assume said person has zero record of indicating any allegiance to America. Should his loyalty to France be suspect?
Cruz has a Canadian birth certificate. The original intent of the natural born requirement for presidents was so that they would not have divided allegiances.
Cruz was born a dual citizen of the US and Canada. According to the original intent of the framers, he is disqualified.
Nobody here as far as I know has said Ted cruz is not an American citizen..
although he was born in another country, his mother was an American citizen, and at least 19 years old...
Ted Cruz was born an American citizen...
the question is “Is he eligible to be president of the United States since he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”...
besides being born in another country his father was not an American citzen at the time of his birth...
If Obama who was born in the US but also without an American citizen father could be said to be ineligible even if he had been born in the Lincoln bedroom, how does Ted Cruz who was born in another country get a pass ???
This has not been acceptably explained in these threads...
Either there is no case for Obama to be ineligible..
or Ted Cruz is also ineligible...
We cant have it both ways...
Even McCain with his overseas birth to TWO American citizen parents and his father stationed overseas in the US military had to prove his eligibility through the Senate to be POTUS...
and Ted Cruz did nopt have both parents as American citizens with a father in the US military sent there by our government..
When I was in the US military and arrived at a US base overseas I was told to go back to the US for any births of children so they would be eligible to be POTUS...
this was 1975...5 years after Ted Cruz was born...
I knew that my son born the year before in the US was not eigible to be POTUS...
I was not an American citizen at the time and was not naturalized as an American citizen until he was 8 months old..
you can argue until you are blue in the face but that was the law when my son was born in 1974...
So if Obama is not eligible, neither is Ted Cruz...
these laws are not a smoresborg...
they are the same for everyone...
Signs up today, posts one article and then doesn’t answer any of the posts. Looks like zotbait to me.
Everyone should read this and absorb it. It’s really quite simple.
what does it say ???
"It is not necessary that a man should be born in this country, to be 'a natural born citizen.' It is only requisite that he should be a citizen by birth, and that is the case with all the children of citizens who have ever resided in this country, though born in a foreign country." ... James Bayard, A Brief Exposition of the Constitution of the United States (1833)
p.s. Theres not the slightest damn evidence anywhere that the Framers of the Constitution gave Vattel any more credence on the definition of citizenship than they did on his views that only the elites and the military should be allowed to keep and bear arms.
The Cliff Notes version very clearly indicates that a “natural born citizen” is one born in a country whose parents are both citizens of that country. No chance whatsoever of foreign allegiance or sympathy AT ALL.
That last sentence was the defining intent of the term.
As a disclaimer, I do absolutely LOVE Ted Cruz and think him an amazing Senator.
But, we gotta be consistent.
Yes - The baby is a dual citizen. France is free to deal with that split allegiance as France pleases.
In the US we impose a very limited restriction on citizens that may have divided loyalty - They just can’t be President.
Have a nice day.
While he doesn't display, or act on divided loyalites...he most certainly owes allegiance to Cananda .
Show me in the US Constitution where your opinion/position/knowledge is codified that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be “Natural Born”.
Lacking that, please provide the relevant US Law(s) passed by Congress and signed by a US President that codifies your understanding/opinion/knowledge that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be “Natural Born”.
Lacking that, please point us to the relevant US Supreme Court decision/ruling that proves that it takes 2 parents that are US Citizens for a newborn to be “Natural Born”.
All three questions could be asked in reverse as well. That’s why this is such an important discussion.
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