Posted on 06/07/2013 8:39:41 AM PDT by Jacquerie
Conservatives tout the importance of the traditional family to our society. Father, mother, children, the family is the building block, the foundation of society. This isn’t news to any civilization. Radical Leftists tell us it doesn’t matter. A family is whatever one or two or more people of any sex wish it to be. After almost fifty years of the Great Society, in which many fathers were replaced with a monthly stipend to mothers, we conservatives know the results. Directionless, violent and barbaric boys grow into felonious men. Absent the proven institution, the structure of traditional marriage, women still have babies, but our culture and civilization suffer. We know this.
Focus on the importance of structure, and apply it to political science, to American history.
In 1776, thirteen American colonies declared independence. Just a few months before the last great battle of the ensuing war, in March 1781, they formalized a quasi-government under the Articles of Confederation. By 1787, it was clear enough the Union was dissolving. The structure of the Articles was insufficient to provide good government. Twelve of the thirteen states sent delegates to a convention to correct its inherent, structural problems. After a summer of effort, they devised a new plan ratified by the people of eleven states within a year.
Structure. There was little difference between the morals and attitudes of the people who drafted the Articles and the Constitution. Indeed, some of the same men who signed the Articles, also signed the Constitution. What changed was the structure of the American government.
The American Union, teetering back on its heels under the Articles, thrived when released by the Constitution. The more perfect union of the Constitution set the stage for freedom and prosperity. A largely agricultural backwater in 1789 grew to become a solid second tier industrial and economic powerhouse in less than a hundred years.
Structure. Just as non-traditional “families” are unnatural and destructive, the Articles of Confederation demonstrated that governments not sufficiently divided into their natural functions were inherently unstable and ineffective. The American Constitutional Union, like the timeless husband/wife/children familial structure, recognized the natural structure of free government.
That natural structure meant separation of powers, and not just the civics class horizontal legislative/executive/judicial. The first, and most important separation was the vertical division of powers between the federal government and states, as enforced by a Senate of the States. In this all important structure, state participation meant a federal government and court system well-confined to enumerated powers and one that respected the Tenth Amendment.
Structure is destiny. The 17th Amendment removed the states from the federal government. In their stead, it created another popularly elected body. Make no mistake, the new Senate beginning in 1913 is a monster, a political Frankenstein that combines the worst of long termed popularly elected politicians with incredible power tied to the executive branch.
As the modern Left redefined and corrupted the natural order, the structure of family, the Left of a hundred years ago did the same to federated, free government. Restoration of republican freedom is impossible without rebuilding the Framers’ structure, and that requires a Senate of the States. The 17th must go.
Spot on. The executive branch agencies are a massive transfer of power from states to the federal government. A federal government which is metastatizing into a national government. Exactly what the FF didn’t want.
Perhaps of interest to you: a discussion of the 17th Amendment.
You’re daydreaming if you believe they’d send a Ted Cruz or Bishop Jackson. Not gonna happen. You’d get big RINO porker types like Tom Davis or Bill Bolling. Too many legs can’t and won’t shake off the gravy train.
IMO, we have an administrative state because Congress likes it. An agency screws a voter. Said voter complains to congressional delegation. A rep or senator helps the voter deal with the problem created by Congress. Voter thanks rep or senator and votes to reelect these swell guys.
A Senate of the States prior to the 17th was jealous of their legislative powers and delegated darn little of it to unelected bureaucrats. Today, it works in their favor to assign legislative duties in wholesale violation of Article I Section 1.
Boot lick.
Ouch!
You’re not acting like a gentleman, sir.
Hi tenten!
Ah, and here is the premier IL Combiner apologist angling for repeal of the 17th and giving unbridled power to the Madigan axis of evil. I’m shocked... shocked !
I ask again, tell me how the 17th better secured our liberty. Is there a single clause in the Bill of Rights that is in better shape today than a hundred years ago?
You'll have to forgive central_va and 1010RD, it is hard to think straight with their faces licking the underside of a state government boot.
The irony of these state government cheerleaders scream about the 17th amendment, of course, is that it became law because their beloved state legislatures ratified it. (not to mention their beloved state government appointed U.S. Senators gave us the 16th amendment, which they retroactively blame the 17th for, because it apparently also enabled politicians to jump in time machines and enact all the bad stuff that happened before the 17th existed).
Likewise, the 10th AMENDMENT was added AFTER the constitution was ratified. According to their OWN logic that we must NEVER EVER EVER change the “original” constitution that the founders enacted in 1789, the 10th amendment must be evil.
I'm not surprised to see combine cheerleader 1010RD is in favor of repealing the 17th. Over on the Christie thread, he actually thinks Christie might have appointed Steve Lonegan. His delusions would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Always the Yankees that are in love with the 17th.
I’m betting 1010 is a troll, and he’s not the only one.
You could open a fish market with all those red herrings you keep tossing out.
I’m winning and making a difference in Illinois. That takes compromise, particularly in America’s North Korea. Yep, I’ll work with other conservatives, RINOs, CINOs and Democrats on a case by case basis to move the ball forward.
I’m not a pouty purist posting. I believe in actions, not words.
Your pseudonymous ad hominem attacks amount to nothing. Jacquerie in battling it out in the arena of ideas. That’s where it starts. Inch by inch getting our country back.
By simply pointing out the importance of the Forgotten Separation of Powers, between the FedGov and the States will begin a shift in thought just like the one that’s become the ruling legal paradigm over the 2nd Amendment. Jacquerie deserves your praise, not your ridicule.
Take a look past your own myopia and think strategically and generationally.
I’m still awaiting a reply to my last post to you. What are you winning exactly ? You talk in meaningless platitudes. What is your personal agenda ? Of all the open and out Conservative activists from Illinois on FR, nobody seems to know you and you work at counter-purposes to them. Very peculiar. That you align yourself with individuals that seek to empower corrupt cliques in state capitals (the notorious Springfield) at the expense of informed voters does not place you on the side of the good, especially so in Illinois. You can’t even acknowledge the word “Combine.” Whom are you working for ?
God bless you and your efforts. You are willing to get down in the battle and put your beliefs into action.
Really, it's just us yankees? Have you checked what state Fieldmarshaldj is from? Last time I checked he's further south than you. The reason why you anti-17th amendment whiners will never get your way is about 90% of Americans support the 17th amendment, instead of having corrupt politicians choosing their Senators for them. It's not our fault you live in one of the FEW southern states that LOVES electing socialists to the U.S. Senate. Instead of forcing the other 49 states to have hacks appointed to "represent" them for life, maybe you could try convincing a few of your "conservative" neighbors in Virginia to stop voting for socialist Senate candidates. Or, as you anti-17th amendments types would say, "if you dislike how things are going in your state, MOVE!"
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