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Was the Revolutionary War a reactionary war? 'Bunker Hill' reconsiders history.
LA Times ^ | May 9, 2013 | Scott Martelle

Posted on 05/11/2013 8:47:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Nathaniel Philbrick's new book gets at the on-the-ground reality of the American Revolution, which the author writes began as 'a profoundly conservative movement.'


John Trumbull's "Death of General Warren at the Battle of Bunker's Hill." (Museum of Fine Arts, Boston / Viking / May 12, 2013)

It turns out the modern incarnation of the tea party may have more in common with the original Boston hell-raisers than people think.

Americans have long romanticized the events leading to the Battle of Bunker Hill and the start of the American Revolution, most without really understanding what happened or what was at stake. In his new book, "Bunker Hill: A City, A Siege, A Revolution," National Book Award-winning historian Nathaniel Philbrick dives deeply and graphically into those treacherous days. The result is a riveting, fast-paced account of the nation's difficult conception but also about how people maneuvered in their time and place and under significant stress.

New Englanders of the era tended to be irascible and belonged to congregations that looked warily at anyone who strayed from doctrine. Absolutist in outlook, they defined freedom as "a very relative term" that usually began and ended with people like themselves (and notably not blacks or natives).

"To say that a love of democratic ideals had inspired these country people to take up arms against the [British] regulars is to misrepresent the reality of the revolutionary movement," Philbrick writes. "The patriots had refused to respect the rights of those with whom they did not agree, and loyalists had been sometimes brutally suppressed throughout Massachusetts."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bunkerhill; godsgravesglyphs; massacgusetts; massachusetts; nathanielphilbrick; pages; revwar
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Reactionary? I think not. These people loved freedom...they were not trying to stop 'progressive thought.' Perhaps the headline writer was confused.
1 posted on 05/11/2013 8:47:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

Decades of abuses led to the revolution and our founders struggled to avoid a war that came to them anyway.

I’d hardly call that reactionary.


2 posted on 05/11/2013 8:50:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Pharmboy
Psssst. Scott Martelle and LA Times. Here's a message for ya:

Rupert Murdoch. Boo!


3 posted on 05/11/2013 8:50:29 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; timpad; ...

The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list...

4 posted on 05/11/2013 8:52:40 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: sauropod

KOCH BROTHERS! BOO!


5 posted on 05/11/2013 8:53:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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The Boston Tea Party was a reaction, but I think Britain’s response to the Tea Party made people seriously consider whether they really wanted to be under King George III.


6 posted on 05/11/2013 8:55:52 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Couldn’t remember if it was Murdoch or the Koch brothers. *blush*

50/50 chance of getting it right ;-)


7 posted on 05/11/2013 8:56:49 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Pharmboy

These days, all of Neo Europa, the North East, is loyalist. They have finally prevailed.


8 posted on 05/11/2013 8:57:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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"...and loyalists had been sometimes brutally suppressed throughout Massachusetts..."

Now the Rats have multiplied and overrun the place.

9 posted on 05/11/2013 8:57:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Pharmboy

How can you write this many words and not mention SAM ADAMS ?


10 posted on 05/11/2013 8:58:34 AM PDT by gusopol3
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Reactionarism might be defined as wanting to turn the clock back. At that time, the British Government was taking steps to reform the relationship between the colonies and the Crown, whereas the colonists where fighting to retain hard won liberties from the struggles between Crown and people during The English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution of 1688. In that sense, I suppose you could call it a reactionary government that was making innovations leading to tyranny.


11 posted on 05/11/2013 8:59:29 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: gusopol3

Funny, but that was precisely one of my first thoughts...


12 posted on 05/11/2013 9:00:04 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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I have heard of another theory that the Revolutionary War was actually a conservative. Before the French and Indian War (Seven Years War to the rest of the world) the colonies were largely left on their own. The had some taxes, but less that the typical British subject back in England. After that war the king and parliament started imposing more laws and taxes which got the colonists wanting to go back to the old ways. It gradually became clear that there was no way to return to that freedom and remain under the king, so the king had to go.

I wish I remembered the author who proposed that idea.

13 posted on 05/11/2013 9:00:07 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: Pharmboy

All I got out of that was “Massholes have always been Massholes.”


14 posted on 05/11/2013 9:01:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Your meaning was loud and clear.


15 posted on 05/11/2013 9:03:46 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: KarlInOhio
That is well-recognized as fact. At the end of the F&I War, the Brits had spent a lot of treasure defending their colonists, and felt strongly that the colonists should help repay the crown. Further, when the Brits pulled out of their wartime headquarters in NYC, it produced an economic depression there.

The Stamp Act Congress was held in NYC, as it was there from 1765-1770 that was the hotbed of revolutionary fervor; it then shifted to Boston.

The combination of increased taxes and economic hard times yielded a strong reaction to George III and the tinderbox was finally touched off by the Boston Massacre.

16 posted on 05/11/2013 9:05:55 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Paladin2

Those poor abused loyalists often earned the hatred of their neighbors long before the revolution. In my family genealogy research we’ve come across loyalists rewarded for turning in neighbors who were problematic for the crown. Things like being stripped of property or livestock which were awarded to loyalists. Sometimes my distant ancestors were loyalists who did it themselves.


17 posted on 05/11/2013 9:06:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Pharmboy
The American Revolution was obviously a counter-revolution, as any serious reading of the Declaration of Independence, as well as a review of the recent preceding history will establish.

Before you take exception, read Jefferson (with the assistance of Franklin & Adam's) actual words. He postulates the right of the action on the British Government's breach of the compact between the governed & the government. The settlers were resisting an aggression against their primal & previously enjoyed rights. (See Declaration Of Independence--With Study Guide.)

While the Left has always quoted passages of the Declaration out of context--the same technique they have used to distort the Constitution;--it cannot be understood except as a whole. It was carefully crafted to make a very different statement than that, which many of our contemporaries have been led to believe.

William Flax

18 posted on 05/11/2013 9:06:53 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Pharmboy; RegulatorCountry
#7 on the NYT best seller list. Not bad. People have always been curious of our own legends and myths as a nation.

I think a definite account of the War of Regulation would make a great impact on the people today. Especially in the times we live in. People seldom mention it today.

19 posted on 05/11/2013 9:09:16 AM PDT by Theoria
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Most of the American colonies were organized and administered as semi-private enterprises, not subject to the same onerous government as Britain, and were generally left to see to their own affairs. When the British government attempted to assert its authority through what were mild taxes and regulations by English standards, these actions struck colonists, who were used to being largely ignored by Whitehall in London, as tyrannical.


20 posted on 05/11/2013 9:09:24 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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