Posted on 04/26/2013 8:31:00 PM PDT by Mason880
My thought is certain recreational drugs, such as marijuana, should remain off legal limits for the under 18 year olds, but become legally available when used in the proper environment. In many ways, pot is quite similar to alcohol, in that they should be used responsibly. My thought is to make the sale of marijuana less profitable by making it legal for home use. Personally, I don't smoke anything now, and do not want the smell of tobacco or pot on my clothes should I visit a public place, such as a shopping mall or bus stop. I know this idea has been kicked around for years, and hasn't really gained traction. My concern is, even if pot was declared legal and open for adult use, how would those newly arrived Mexcian gangs deal with this market loss? Would they end up trying to raid, ruin and close down any public seller of these formerly illegal substances? I think for the first few years, there may be such push back and attempts at intimidation by those losing business to the open market. Its' not really my fight anymore, but, so many cities say they are inching toward bankruptcy, this new open market may help to boost city funds. Yes, it would be a bold step in the cold, deep waters of chance. But it may work. We go rid of prohibition of alcohol, and the country survived the gang's angry wrath back then too.
I disagree. Many others disagree. I was never beaten or abused by a pot head as a child. Can’t say the same for drunks. Its obvious we have very different views and experiences on them both.
>>drug addiction is a scourge of our society. Nothing but ill will come from it.<<
Alcohol...proof positive!
Alcohol is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and injuries, more than all other drugs combined.
So...how bout we ban Alcohol?
“. Can’t say the same for drunks”
I have not, for one moment, defended drunks. I would not leave my kid with a drunk.
I would leave them with someone who has a beer with his hot dog.
Not with a drunk.
Well, I like it. It’s different and interesting. Suits you!
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Boo ****ing hoo, so people can drink. I have absolutely had it with druggies and their incessant whining and manipulating. I despise them. Go join the Democrats if you want to be a waste of life. You’ll fit right in with them. And when your life completely falls apart because of this ridiculously bad lifestyle choice that you have made, don’t expect the rest of us to carry your weight because of it.
Libertarians = liberals who can balance a checkbook
true, I prefer the term libraltarian, as they’re even more liberal than many liberals I;ve met n social issues
love it when they say how the war on drugs is lost and a waste of time and money but then we might as well use that logic to rape, murder, robbery as we still have that too, hell why have crime lets make it all legal.
Problem with liberaltarians is that they don’t understand that they’re not conservatives and are more in tune with the radical left.
What they can’t understand is that they should use their own platform, their own nomination process, use their own conventions and stop telling us on the right that we should accept their agenda.
correct but saying they should use it for pain is their crafty line.
The others are war on drugs is a waste.
Dope doesn;t produce violence as everyone is happy, well except the dope get together in CO and the trash they leave in CA which cost tax payers over a 100 grand.
In the end it is because they want to get high but they use nice slogans to sell it to the sheep masses and other dopes
free speech bla bla
This is not a democracy on the site , the dope was zotted because he was a dope and troll
I don't drink nor use drugs. I get a bit wore out by all the folks who pat each other on the back for working so hard at passing legislation banning drugs then meeting at the local bar to shoot back a few scotch and sodas.
That would make them....hypocrites. By the way, how many folks have ruined their lives with alcohol in the last decade? Probably wouldn't want to face the stats I'm sure.
It would be far more than any illegal drug combined. But hey, let's don't allow the facts to cloud the discussion.
Dumb @ss of anyday is someone noting the ills of alcohol while wanting to hit America with a tsunami of drugs.
I don't drink nor use drugs.
Then you know nothing about that which you speak which would account for your incredible lack of insight in this matter.
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"Tsunami of drugs" is Chicken Little hysteria - we already have drug use because very few of those who are undeterred by the inherent harms of the drugs themselves are deterred by the possibility of arrest and conviction. The primary effect of legalization would be to cease hyperinflating drug profits and channeling those profits into criminal and terrorist hands.
The FBI reports that two out of three murders are solved; the proportion of drug "crimes" that are even detected is assuredly several orders of magnitude smaller.
Complete BS. The primary effect would be to produce a nation of useless drug addicts that would, to a large extent, inevitably gravitate towards the democratic party. Drug addiction is sickness and slavery and legalizing drug use is just creating more slaves for the Democratic plantation and more burdens for free society. I repeat, NOTHING but ill will come of it. The mere mention of legalizing drugs for recreational use ought to be grounds for having a posters account suspended as far as I'm concerned. I have zero tolerance for drug addicts.
Complete BS.
No, basic market economics and borne out by history:
"The lush traffic in alcohol beverages during the violent years of 1920 to 1933 had laid the base of organization for a number of criminal gangs. The termination of the ban on liquor deprived these gangs of their most lucrative source of money" - Special Committee to Investigate Organized Crime in Interstate Commerce
The primary effect would be to produce a nation of useless drug addicts
Already refuted in the text you omitted: "we already have drug use because very few of those who are undeterred by the inherent harms of the drugs themselves are deterred by the possibility of arrest and conviction."
Also refuted by history - legalizing the addictive mind-altering drug alcohol did not produce a nation of useless alcohol addicts.
Tsunami of drugs" is Chicken Little hysteria - we already have drug use because very few of those who are undeterred by the inherent harms of the drugs themselves are deterred by the possibility of arrest and conviction. The primary effect of legalization would be to cease hyperinflating drug profits and channeling those profits into criminal and terrorist hands.It was stated that alcohol is a big problem compared to illegal drugs.
You are wasting our time babbling useless nonsense as you completely missed the point that legalizing drugs would only grow the drug problem to such proportions and even worse.
Thus, using alcohol abuse as an example of a legal drug, we can see that more addictive drugs would be as bad and worse if made legal (crack, heroin, etc).
As for drug money, criminals who abuse illegal drugs must live with a terrible guilt every time they look a family member in the eye (if they even can look them in the eye), knowing the constant flow of cash they pay for drugs drains away a chance of a better life. Legalization would only create more of the desperate type of people you mentioned, which would mean more dangerous criminals looking to break into your home (while likely being crazed on drugs) to rob everything they can for drugs.
The criminal drug dealers are far out-numbered by the criminal drug users and you want to create even more of those desperate drug user types. The drug dealers would simply move into the stolen goods black market business and still be selling whatever new drug they can make more powerful in their labs.
That is, until the once civilized society collapses. Will you be stepping up as a man to apologize for your drug crazy ideas then? Rather doubtful.
Drug addiction is sickness and slavery and legalizing drug use is just creating more slaves for the Democratic plantation and more burdens for free society.Well said there buddy.
The mere mention of legalizing drugs for recreational use ought to be grounds for having a posters account suspended as far as I'm concerned.I agree but it is also good to see their arguments exposed for the crazy Liberal BS that they are.
Such as the latest 180 turnaround from Nanny...legalizing the addictive mind-altering drug alcohol did not produce a nation of useless alcohol addicts
It is only pure desperation that Pro-Drug Pushers slam alcohol as being terrible, while saying they want drugs legalized. As if pouring gasoline on a fire is a good idea!
Then when they get exposed for that craziness, they turn around and claim alcohol really isn't that bad. LoL!
I don't know how many times Nanny ranted at me about how terrible alcohol is, maybe a dozen or more. But I seriously don't expect a consistant and rational argument from them - That would be even more crazy!
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