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Most Overrated Historic Figure(s)

Posted on 04/20/2013 7:55:55 PM PDT by MNDude

There are probably many people in history who have received more credit than they deserved. Excluding any US Presidents in the past century (that would be too easy), what three historic figures do you think are the most overrated?


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To: MNDude; reaganaut

Marx
Freud
...
and a three-way tie between Mohammed, Darwin, and Justin Bieber! :)


61 posted on 04/20/2013 8:39:37 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge 2016!)
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To: MNDude

Any general who overwhelms a much weaker enemy by vast resources in men or material or both should never be held up as a great leader.

Examples: Crazy Horse at Little Big Horn.
Grant: Against Robert E. Lee.
Xerxes and Darius against the ancient Greeks and not just the Spartans.


62 posted on 04/20/2013 8:41:29 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
I don't know how anyone could say that Napoleon was an overrated historical figure given his impact. Same with Hitler, who was a monster, yet we are living with the consequences of his actions to this day—and will forevermore.

My picks would be: MLK, Nelson Mandela, and Gorbachev. I wouldn't even put Hillary in this group as she's not a historical figure and I don't think she'll ever be elected POTUS.

63 posted on 04/20/2013 8:41:55 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: MNDude

Hillary Clinton

Martin Luther King Jr.

ANY democrat that sat on the Supreme Court


64 posted on 04/20/2013 8:43:55 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: MNDude

As the Angels have quickly found out...Josh Hamilton.


65 posted on 04/20/2013 8:43:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Michael.SF.

Heh, I was reading through the posts thinking “Didn’t they read the premise?”

I think it was simply too much to resist. Heck, my fingers were twitching to type Foxtrot Delta Romeo.

But I held off...:)


66 posted on 04/20/2013 8:45:01 PM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: nkronos

I agree about Ghandi. Most overrated. He had the good fortune to go up against the British. Anyone else would have waxed him.


67 posted on 04/20/2013 8:45:19 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: MNDude

General Douglas MacArthur.


68 posted on 04/20/2013 8:46:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: MNDude; mrreaganaut

Darwin. My husband got into a debate with a law professor after DH pointed out that Darwin was a racist. Proff asked DH to prove it and DH gave him several quotes, proff ended up with egg on his face.


69 posted on 04/20/2013 8:47:20 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: rlmorel
General Douglas MacArthur.

I was waiting for that one to show up.

70 posted on 04/20/2013 8:47:44 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: MNDude

General Haig

He threw away hundreds of thousands of lives to no purpose, and got away with it only after Pershing brought over two million american boys to win the war.


71 posted on 04/20/2013 8:48:13 PM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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To: Revolting cat!

+1 but I’m a Holly fan


72 posted on 04/20/2013 8:48:14 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: MNDude

In no particular order....

Tom Cruise
Rob Reiner
John Travolta
Pee Wee Herman
Jane Fonda
Cindy Sheehan


73 posted on 04/20/2013 8:49:08 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: yarddog

I read your first line of that post, and thought I would offer up Chester Nimitz as a rebuttal, but kept in mind he was locked in a death grip with the Japanese Navy when they were still on par or even superior.

So he wouldn’t have applied.


74 posted on 04/20/2013 8:50:08 PM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: treetopsandroofs

So many mentioned are pop culture rather than historical figures. SMH


75 posted on 04/20/2013 8:50:24 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: treetopsandroofs

So many mentioned are pop culture rather than historical figures. SMH


76 posted on 04/20/2013 8:50:24 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: Pan_Yan

Don’t let yerself get caught on the Chalmette battlefield after sundown.


77 posted on 04/20/2013 8:51:08 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: rlmorel

Whether you like him or not, McArthur was one of the most brilliant generals of all time. His invasion of Inchon was a true masterpiece.

His WWII leadership was also of the highest order.


78 posted on 04/20/2013 8:51:53 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Pan_Yan

I will say, though, that even though my opinion of him in certain respects is not that high, I still recognize that he did do some pretty good things.

I would have had Nimitz taking the surrender from the Japanese rather than MacArthur.


79 posted on 04/20/2013 8:52:06 PM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: MNDude; Dr. Zoo

Senator Barack Hussein Obama

Governor William Jefferson Clinton

Dr. Zoo, Doctor of Phenomonology


80 posted on 04/20/2013 8:52:17 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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