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Walmart --- Can They Be Stopped? (vanity)
October 10, 2012 | me

Posted on 10/10/2012 8:09:47 AM PDT by Beowulf

Does any one have any experience or insight into fighting Walmart expansion that they would be willing to share?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: retail; vanity; walmart
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To: Beowulf

Tell Jim Goodbye and write your obit bio for FR and say goodbye.

Then, join DU, Moveon and other liberal organizations.

Donate big to Obama and other haters of business.

Don’t bother to reply. At my age I have no time to waste on those who believe in chrony capitalism.


41 posted on 10/10/2012 8:38:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: Beowulf

In the 80s, Walmart became the 800 lb. gorilla.

Since then, they have grown.

The only way to stop their acquisition of land might be through the city council. Chances are slim.

Just because they acquire land does not necessarily mean that they are going to build there. Walmart is so massive that in the HQ, many times, the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing.


42 posted on 10/10/2012 8:38:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I buy my meats at a local unionized grocery store with an excellent butcher shop and all the other stuff at WM.

Yesterday @ WM I ran into a cashier at the unionized store with a cart full of groceries.

She said “I can’t afford to shop at my store”.


43 posted on 10/10/2012 8:38:57 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Beowulf
Nothing has stopped them so far.

Turned out, in Orlando at least, all the fears and hand wringing was pie in the sky. It has been a welcome addition to the food marketing scene for many lower income folks who need a bargain to get by.

Further re-zoning hasn't negatively affected the area around property on which they constructed the box.

44 posted on 10/10/2012 8:40:56 AM PDT by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
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To: Beowulf
I remember reading an article in Smithsonian magazine years ago about a town that faced the demise of their downtown due to the building of a Walmart nearby. I think the downtown shops got together and came up with ideas to strengthen the downtown shopping experience by making it a desirable place to shop in addition to Walmart. They emphasized uniqueness of products and personalized service.
45 posted on 10/10/2012 8:41:26 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Beowulf

Free market capitalism is THE economy of free peoples.

If you don’t like it, move to Venezuela.

Conservatism supports free markets, as we support freedom, period.


46 posted on 10/10/2012 8:47:02 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: 1rudeboy

Raising tariffs in order to prevent a store from locating in your neighborhood certainly is not constitutional.

No, not for that sole reason alone, but the governemnt is supposed to be funded via tariffs not an income tax.

And the Tariff level would have to be raised by congress.

Beats using eminent domain to prevent a private corp from doing what they want to with a piece of land they own.


47 posted on 10/10/2012 8:47:25 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Amagi
Walmart can be extremely devastating to the character of existing quiet, established communities and especially to Mom and Pop small businesses.

Don't forget to pay your union dues this month.

48 posted on 10/10/2012 8:48:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (That was sarcasm, you moron.)
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To: Beowulf

If the Walmart plans meet the existing zoning plans, leave them alone.

If they are looking for a special exemption on the zoning, which would cause traffic problems, then fight to make the zoning laws equally applied to everyone.

If you simply don’t like the idea of a new Walmart...then you are on the wrong forum.


49 posted on 10/10/2012 8:49:07 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Beowulf

I live in Tampa and am familiar with the Carrollwood area this is proposed for. The “2 miles north and south” is misleading since the street it is proposed for, Dale Mabry, is a heavily traveled north-south throughfare littered with traffic lights with 2-3 minute cycles (some even more, the further south you get). Those 2 miles, at rush hour, could easily take 15 minutes.

I know, as I live 2-3 miles from a Walmart in Tampa and would gladly have one closer. It can easily take me 15 minutes to get there during certain times of the day.

That being said, the Carrollwood area, and Tampa in general, isn’t exactly a beacon of “mom and pop” shops anyway, so what’s the big deal? Traffic? It won’t make it much worse than it already is.


50 posted on 10/10/2012 8:50:16 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: stayathomemom

Economic prosperity breeds MORE economic prosperity. Maybe not the same kind, but, other kinds.

Free markets change and adjust—businesses rise and fail.

The problem today is that regulation—local and federal—makes is much harder for new businesses to rise, hence when change makes them fail, new ones don’t replace them...and we have rust-belt style blight.

And we wonder why the rust-belt happens to also be in the bluer of blue states?


51 posted on 10/10/2012 8:50:37 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The innovator and now king of progressive persuasion video is Brave New Films [producer of Walmart: The High Cost Of Low Prices] and its visionary helmsman Robert Greenwald, who segued from a career in Hollywood to position himself as the go-to-guy with political video, with a huge presence on the Internet.

When AlterNet did its reader poll of the most influential progressives last year, some of the readers' picks, such as Bill Moyers, Michael Moore and Amy Goodman, were obvious and expected. In a sense there were only three newcomers (people who have made their mark in the past 10 years) in the top echelon -- Rachel Maddow, Arianna Huffington, and the biggest surprise, Robert Greenwald. In the past decade, Greenwald has carved out an important niche, and in effect he is the first primarily Internet-based progressive star to break through.


52 posted on 10/10/2012 8:52:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Beowulf

Who actually owns the property now? The former business? WalMart’s property-acquisition division? The city or county (picked up for unpaid property taxes, perhaps)?


53 posted on 10/10/2012 9:00:47 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

Why waste any energy on “stopping” Walmart? ALL of your energy should go into stopping pin-headed, moonbat LIBs. Unless...you a5re some sort of commie pinko in disguise.


54 posted on 10/10/2012 9:04:01 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Charles Martel

Why waste any energy on “stopping” Walmart? ALL of your energy should go into stopping pin-headed, moonbat LIBs. Unless...you are some sort of commie pinko in disguise.


55 posted on 10/10/2012 9:04:33 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: poobear

I agree with you. I am not against Wal-Mart, but I am not for them either.

Our town has a derelict former Wal-Mart store, which moved its business down the road. Its a real eyesore - weeds, graffiti, dumped garbage, etc... I imagine Wal-Mart doesn’t even own it. Its probably a property developer. I also know our town dropped their pants 15 years ago with benefits to get Wal-Mart to locate there.

Its futile to try to support the “mom and pops” but how about just applying the law equally? I also agree that maximum authority should be given to the lowest levels of Gov’t - ie) the town - to make decisions on their own future.


56 posted on 10/10/2012 9:06:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: listenhillary

Buy the land from Walmart so you can do with the land what you wish.

Finally, the voice of reason. This parcel could no doubt have been purchased for a song in 2009. Neighbors probably could have taken up a collection and paid cash.

They just assumed the property owner would continue to provide them with the enjoyment of the lack of development of the vacant lot for free. Bad assumption. Oh well.


57 posted on 10/10/2012 9:08:57 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The wrong smoke detector might just kill you - http://www.theworldfiresafetyfoundation.org)
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To: Beowulf

If you want to stop the expansion of Walmart then:

A. Stop shopping there (if you haven’t already)
B. Convince as many people as possible to stop shopping there.

That’s the free market solution. The problem is that Walmart allows people to actually buy cheap food and clothing, and my God, people like that! It’ll be pretty hard to convince people to pay more for their items at other stores just because you don’t like Walmart.


58 posted on 10/10/2012 9:11:28 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Beowulf

Walmart = slavers


59 posted on 10/10/2012 9:16:08 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: stremba

there is nothing more expensive than cheap food and clothing, made by ChiCom slaves.


60 posted on 10/10/2012 9:18:18 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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