Posted on 02/05/2012 5:09:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv
For a long time, scientists had assumed a gradual expansion of African people through Sinai into both Europe and Asia. Then, bizarrely, it became clear from both genetics and archaeology that Europe was peopled later (after 40,000 years ago) than Australia (before 50,000 years ago).
Meanwhile, the geneticists were beginning to insist that many Africans and all non-Africans shared closely related DNA sequences that originated only after about 70,000-60,000 years ago in Africa. So a new idea was born, sometimes called the "beachcomber express," in which the first ex-Africans were seashore dwellers who spread rapidly around the coast of the Indian Ocean, showing an unexpected skill at seafaring to reach Australia across a strait that was at least 40 miles wide. The fact that the long-isolated Andaman islanders have genes that diverged from other Asians about 60,000 years ago fits this notion of sudden seaside peopling.
Sea levels were 150 feet lower then, because the cold had locked up so much moisture in northern ice-caps, so not only were most Indonesian islands linked by land, but the Persian Gulf was dry and, crucially, the southern end of the Red Sea was a narrow strait...
The story grew more complicated last year when a team led by Hans Peter Uerpmann of the University of Tübingen in Germany described a set of stone tools found under a rock overhang in eastern Arabia, dating from 125,000 years ago. The tools were comparable to those made by east Africans around the same time. This was when Arabia was wetter than today, but the Red Sea crossing was wider.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
Well.
I don't know...I've been a bit negligent the last couple years, or so.
I think these guys (linked below) are causing headaches for the 'out of Africa' crowd. They're in Europe too early and their tools are more advanced than anything in Africa at the time. Some have even suggested that these folks went into Africa and became Modern Man. (Or, they became Modern Man and then went into Africa?)
These guys were in Europe 1.85 million years ago.
Surfs UP! Get your boards and surf to a new world.
In my 68 years of (just) living, I've noticed that it is the dumb, least educated who seem to hold these views.
Does that shoe fit?
It shounds as though the San may have been isolated genetically by the sharp worldwide population reducation caused by Toba about 74,000 years ago. As for the Australia trip, didn’t the ocean get as much as 400 feet shallower at some point in there not the 150 feet the article mentioned.
Another item. With the discovery of the Kow Marsh hominids in Australia, which although only 12,000 years old have the appearance of the pre Neanderthal Heidelburgensis, is it possible for us to learn something from their DNA?
“Even today, there are reports of “hairy wild men” being seen in Australia. So maybe they are still there.”
It’s the beer. Everyone looks hairy after drinking Aussie beer.
In less than ten years, we've discovered two new human lines that were alive less the 15,000 years ago. The 'Hobbits' and the Denisovans.
New Type Of Ancient Human FoundDescendants Live Today?
This hasn't gone away either. Maybe Toba killed all the Calico people, eh?
"it is the dumb, least educated who seem to hold these views. Does that shoe fit?"You talkin' 'bout me?
Dumb:" Naw, I kin speak prutty gud!
a: lacking the human power of speech
b: of a person often offensive : lacking the ability to speak.
2. : temporarily unable to speak
"least educated"
Educated:You don't even want to go there but no, I am not among the "indoctrinated".
having an education; especially : having an education beyond the average .
2. a : giving evidence of training or practice
"Does that shoe fit?I walk upright on two feet, hence shoes would be more appropo But thanks for caring, and thanks for sharing.
Early humans were more competent seafarers than anyone but Thor Heyerdahl (sp?) seems willing to give them credit for.
For example - during the historic events behind the story “Mutiny on the Bounty” - fearing English revenge the crew of the Bounty sought out an island that was way out in nowhereville with only a vague report that some British sailor thought he saw an island.
When they got there, there were people on it.
Just about every single rock that thrust up from the Ocean capable of supporting human life - has human life on it, most of them for many thousands of years.
What does that tell you about the capabilities of early humanity in regards to navigating the ocean?
My WWII grandma told me this joke.
“Why do the women in the Army prefer to use the latrine for the WAVES?”
“They don't like the WAC’s paper in their own latrine.”
Exactly.
Well, they didn’t fly there on Qantas.
Scientific analysis of old chicken bones found in Chile shows Polynesians reached the continent no later than 1407.
Key new evidence comes from two directions. The first involves revised carbon-dating of an ancient ceremonial headdress used by Southern California's Chumash Indians. The second involves research by two California scientists who suggest that a Chumash word for "sewn-plank canoe" is derived from a Polynesian word for the wood used to construct the same boat.
Anthropology has become so poisoned by political correctness and hatred of men that it has become unreliable and is heading towards the utility of alchemy. When the UMass department of anthropology renamed itself the department of feminist anthropology I stopped contributing to my alma matter except for donations limited to ROTC. UMass further shamed itself by creating a department of “social justice,” which even awards a doctorate in anti-male and anti-white hatred.
Here is another interesting link, really ancient. A lot of very unscientific comments. SC - Maybe you would like to post even though it is Huff. Doesn’t seem very political.
Hey, thanks glee’, that’s sufficiently interesting that I will be reading the rest of it. :’) That one’s just crying out for another source, and I’ve got links for that. ;’)
Here is another link. I don’t know if it is serious enough to be classified as Catastrophism.
http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-remain-cut-off-deep-freeze-bosnia-153952911.html
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