Posted on 11/20/2011 3:29:07 PM PST by floridarunner01
Michael Gaynor, 25, completed his bachelor’s degree and certification to teach elementary and high-school physical education in May 2009, then set out during a recession to find that dream job.
Over the next two years, the quest would take him from substitute teaching and respite care work in Iowa, back to his parents’ home in Skokie; to Florida, where he waited tables, then back to Skokie; to Colorado as a substitute teacher, coach and camp counselor, then, back to Skokie.
“My moves back home were always transitional. They allowed me to save up money, not having to pay rent and utilities,” says Gaynor, who got a new job and moved out from his parents again last week.
A U.S. Census Bureau analysis earlier this month found that nearly one of every five young men in their mid-20s through mid-30s are either moving back home with their parents — or never left.
The report, America’s Families and Living Arrangements: 2011, found 19 percent of American men age 25 to 34 living in their parents’ homes — the highest level since 1960.
Only 10 percent of women in that age group were living at home with parents.
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19 percent is the actual unemployment rate in the USA. The bogus “9” percent is only those currently receiving unemployment benefits.
So, cut off all unemployment payments and Voila! Unemployment istantly sinks to zero percent! Thus via Government statistics, we overnight have jobs....according to the Government.
Liars will lie and bears will @#$% in the woods. Duh..
In this guy's (and other “experts” I presume), the hallmarks of an adult is experience, INTERdependence, and willing to take responsibility for one’s actions (that taking responsibility might be the “independence” and self respect us conservatives are trying to describe?).
>>In this guy’s (and other “experts” I presume), the hallmarks of an adult is experience, INTERdependence, and willing to take responsibility for one’s actions (that taking responsibility might be the “independence” and self respect us conservatives are trying to describe?).<<
I use the term “independence” as opposed to “dependence.”
>>In Italy, children living with their parents is a way of life. The daughters get married off, the sons move back in, or stay in the first place. If they are all happy and it works, so be it.
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Yes, we want to emulate Italy as a socioeconomic model.
Oops, I forgot to congratulate you on the job, dog breath. Kudos to you. I am very happy with everything you went through that you were able to find one. Sad but I am sure that anyone 50 and over has even a harder time finding a new job.
A friend of mine was laid off two years ago at age 38. He had a wife and three kids (one with some serious medical issues) to take care of, so he joined the Army. He is currently deployed with my brother-in-law’s unit. His nickname among the other soldiers is “Gramps”, but my BIL tells me that everyone really respects Vic for doing this and that the younger soldiers look up to him as a father figure.
Just fresh out of college and you don’t have a new car, $800,000 house furnished with the latest and greatest, money for European vacations and winter cruises, etc.? Woe is you. Better move in with Mommy and Daddy and hope they die early so you can obtain the life style that you so richly deserve because you were born and are sucking air.
I wonder to what degree the difference of men living at home versus women is the ability of single women with kids to get a government subsidized apartment, which single men cannot.
I would add that mommies spoiling their darling baby boys is why so many of today’s young men are unmarriable (if that’s a word.)
Yep, didn’t used to be such a factor when we had larger families, but we’re headed to the Italian model of never-leave-home sons.
(Also, all the hormones from birth control pills in the water supply probably doesn’t help.)
I think women try harder to stay independent, because (as I said in an earlier post) mothers and daughters tend to have a relationship quite different from mothers and sons. From what I've seen, a son can do no wrong and a daughter can do no right. Personally, I am convinced that for that reason, largely, women will take jobs that are "beneath them" more readily than a spoiled prince will. We will also get roommates, give up the car and ride the bus if there is one, cook cheap meals, and basically suffer privation more often than young men will. From what I've seen young men these days have a pretty lofty sense of what they deserve, and a very definite attitude about what they won't "settle" for.
Women, on the other hand, will put up with just about anything to avoid going back to Mo-ther. You can also see this female humility - for better or worse - in most women's dating habits. We are doormats, by and large.
>>Women, on the other hand, will put up with just about anything to avoid going back to Mo-ther.<<
And apparently accomplish it. Which means it is possible, if one is properly motivated.
It looks like guys aren’t that motivated. Who needs to be with mommy standing by, ever-elastic umbilical at the ready?
Your points about men and women and their different relationships to mothers are well-taken and also make my point.
I believe you are right. My mother was born in ‘29 and she told of their family which lived with his parents while he went on the road to work. Grandma’s and grandpas lived with them too if need be and EVERYONE pitched in. She made it sound very idyllic.
You are not very logical. That is the nicest way I can say it. Men were hit much worse in this down turn. That is the facts.
I hope u never need a hand from your family. I hope even more your family never needs help from you until you learn humility.
I suspect your under 35 and still live in a world not touched by true adversity. Maybe you are that rare person who overcomes everything without help from your friends and family.
I was like that, cocky, until I needed help. I’m a better MAN today.
Personally, I believe that people made do and worked together to survive. Many hands make light work. I am sure there were issues with so many people under one roof but there were advantages as well. Not to be over analytical but it is in modern times that children leave the home before marriage and “old age homes” exist. Families use to stick together more. I think as a society we’ve lost that closeness. Grandchildren now know “Granny” or “Pop-Pop” when they see them for an hour on Saturday. The unemployed now rely on welfare rather than moving back home till they find another job. I don’t consider this a good evolution.
Yes, I think so.
It looks like guys aren’t that motivated. Who needs to be with mommy standing by, ever-elastic umbilical at the ready?
Exactly. We've raised a generation of Momma's Boys.
It kind of depends. If one doesn't have a student loan and is in a medium-sized city where the standard of living is not astronomical... let's see. If it's 40 hours a week, that's about $1,600 before taxes. Maybe $1,300 after. A person alone could conceivably find a one-bedroom apartment for $600 (I just did a craigslist search for Milwaukee -- random choice -- and there are plenty.) Set aside $200 for utilities and phone and that leaves $500 to live on. Yeah, that's tight, but I've done it. It helps to be within walking distance of work. My definition of "walking distance" is 2 miles, but I'm pretty able-bodied. And before you say that's impossible, I lived in Michigan and had a night job two miles from my apartment, and I walked it even in the dead of winter. So... it can be done. It's just hard.
Leni
Someday, some of the hard-noses here will be old, sick and lame.....and will be praying one of their adult children will take them in.
And their ungrateful and unproductive spawn will ship them off to the Home and have the ObamaCare™ government give them a pill "to ease the pain".
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