Posted on 11/20/2011 3:29:07 PM PST by floridarunner01
Michael Gaynor, 25, completed his bachelor’s degree and certification to teach elementary and high-school physical education in May 2009, then set out during a recession to find that dream job.
Over the next two years, the quest would take him from substitute teaching and respite care work in Iowa, back to his parents’ home in Skokie; to Florida, where he waited tables, then back to Skokie; to Colorado as a substitute teacher, coach and camp counselor, then, back to Skokie.
“My moves back home were always transitional. They allowed me to save up money, not having to pay rent and utilities,” says Gaynor, who got a new job and moved out from his parents again last week.
A U.S. Census Bureau analysis earlier this month found that nearly one of every five young men in their mid-20s through mid-30s are either moving back home with their parents — or never left.
The report, America’s Families and Living Arrangements: 2011, found 19 percent of American men age 25 to 34 living in their parents’ homes — the highest level since 1960.
Only 10 percent of women in that age group were living at home with parents.
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Too bad about his name.
I think what is important, when kids move back home, is that there is a real goal in mind, whether it be paying down student loans or saving up for a house or building a business.
There would no way I’d let my kid move back home, if all it meant to him was that he’d have a couple more bucks in his jeans to go out Saturday night.
Some parents don’t mind if their child moves back when hurting in this economy. Our next door neighbor has their adult son living at home. The son does all the yard work and takes care of all his laundry etc... I feel sorry for the kid since he turns in resume after resume, interview after interview. I didn’t live during the Depression but something tells me that families helped each other when they were down. I have the feeling that families took their own kin in until things got better. IMHO.
education has the lowest sat’s and gre’s. down there with journalism and phys ed.
the program is more indoctrination than analytical skills.
face it, education is not as difficult as physics, chemistry,
math, engineering, finance, latin, greek, history etc.
i used to work in an admissions office and looked daily at students’ grades and test scores.
It’s a saturated market. Does not matter how smart they think they are.
If there are no jobs available, then it is a bad degree to get.
Just how many coaches do we need for schools?
Well, of course, I’m not talking about freeloaders who want to sit in their underwear all day. I am saying if a child busted his or her hump to go to school, get a job and lost that job due to this rotten economy... I would gladly take mine back. Yes, RULES are important like helping out with the household chores, being responsible, finding a job or getting some education/training etc... but no way would I turn my back on my child.
The problem with adult “children” living at home is when there is no set plan for (a)rent & board, (b) help with things around the home community and (c) when the experience will end. It can be mighty cushy if you can just hang out and eat (even though your sense of self deteriorates quickly).
You forget that many times the parents are struggling too.
The unemployment for people over age 50 that were laid off is even worse than the unemployment for the youth.
The family living together and pooling their money to pay for the family home starts to look attractive.
If you’ve seen the show, “The Waltons”, I think you’ll find that was a reasonable representaion of many families of that era during the Depression, with the core family and the grown children, if they were employed nearby were often allowed to live in the house to defray the costs of living.
“A soft landing makes for flabby reflexes”.
So, what are you teaching them really? That the umbilical cord is severed and they are completely on their own? Sorry... but if a child of mine lost his or her job and couldn’t find another one quickly... that is what a parent does. Of course, there are specific rules and guidelines and the invitation can be taken back at any time due to laziness etc... Maybe I was raised differently with respect to family and helping them in their time of need.
>>The family living together and pooling their money to pay for the family home starts to look attractive.<<
Assuming all are working an not waiting for the “right job” there may be something to be said for that.
The article implies otherwise. And how does that explain the disparity between men and women? I can’t believe men are hit twice as hard...
>>So, what are you teaching them really? That the umbilical cord is severed and they are completely on their own? <<
You are teaching them to be dependent on others.
Helping family is fine, but shielding them from the lumps life gives out is just the road to neediness.
OTOH, a Man would never ask to move back in so perhaps the damage is done. I assume this is a hypothetical for you so we can hope you won’t get this test.
It’s worse. It’s a physical education degree. My wife graduated with a biology/general science education degree as valedictorian with a 4.0.
You completely pegged it, for me anyway. I moved out (to college) at 17, then would periodically visit or “live at home” (in between seasonal jobs, maybe two weeks tops). Everything is fine now since I live 10 minutes from my parents, but 18-24 was no fun, and I never will forget some of the insults! Especially since I am the oldest.
The Waltons is a perfect example. Call me Pollyanna-ish but families should try to help each other. Now, if the issue is drugs, laziness, etc... then they need to go learn on their own. However, if a loved one needs some help... that is what family is supposed to be about. IMHO, if a parent says, “Sorry you lost your job but you’re grown now so good bye” then that sets a family pattern. When Mom or Dad get older and may need some help with driving or being checked on... why shouldn’t the adult child say, “Sorry you are old but I’m grown now so good bye”.
I think that’s fair and reasonable.
If they are accomplishing something, like loan repayments and can show me that is where there money is going, I don’t see it as a problem. Why should the banks be allowed to make an extra 20 or 30 thousand dollars in interest, just so they have an apartment of their own, when the 20 grand could be a nice down payment on a home.
Depends on how hard they want to be independent, I have cleaned, unloaded trucks delivered papers, worked 2 or 3 jobs between better paying jobs, you don’t need the perfect job. My son who could of qualified for some government disability if he wished, lives on his own working a night shift rather then mooch off others or his parents. A student will often be dependent on their parents but beyond school it is choice. It is nice that families are close enough to open their doors when needed but at some point it becomes the building of weakness rather then strength.
I think it all depends on the reason WHY they lost their job, their plan on getting another one or training/education/something to make them stand out in the market and rules. No sleeping in type days, no partying etc... Essentially, staying at home is a means to an end... the end being able to stand on their own.
I’m with you, Mom. My 27 year old son lives with me. He can’t find a good job. He unloads trucks on the night shift. Sometimes his shift is 19 hours long. He has dinner ready on his days off. It wouldn’t occur to me to do his laundry and it wouldn’t occur to him to expect it. He’s good with guns, which helps me to sleep soundly at night. He believes in close family ties.
But moooommmm,
That’s not fair!
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