Posted on 11/06/2011 1:07:59 PM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
Could Karl Marx and other foundational socialists, like Proudhon and Bakunin, have had a soft-spot for Lucifer? Would it even make sense to suggest anti-religious, godless persons could still salute Satan? This article is a brief investigation into whether socialism has any claim to fame as an ideology of not just atheists, but even diabolically minded people ...
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50 years is an awfully long time to wait to have all the debts paid back! Many, if not most people would have died before receiving the benefits of it.
Amen!
Richard Wurmbrand, a pastor who had been persecuted by the Communists while in Eastern Europe, has written extensively about the ties between Karl Marx and Satanism.
Thanks. I will be sure to read them.
Any political philosophy that results in the enslavement of the citizens is supported and fostered by Satan.I would have no qualms referring to Carl Marx, Van Jones, Valerie Jarret, Obama ET AL as servants of or minions of Satan.
By his own twisted logic everything he touches must fail or he will have written his own reason for being out of existence, by creating a success for man.
Involving him in anything is a ticket to doom.
So it has been with all forms of socialism.
Regards.
Envy and pride are both contained in the 10 commandments.
I don’t know what Distributionism is, but I think that some of the roots of socialism are found in Catholic social teaching.
“Socialism = idolatry. The government is the idol.
When you look to a government to provide your needs, rather than God, you violate the very first commandment, “Thou shalt have none other Gods before Me.”
Jehovah Jireh my Provider
of course not
I think you misunderstand pride. The OWS are prideful. They are arrogant, and feel entitled. They covet what others have earned. They are, in fact, walking talking examples of most if not all of the cardinal sins.
All denominations have their fair share of liberals/socialists, heck that is one of the reasons there are so many denominations to begin with, but that is a different conversation. With that said can one truly be Catholic and a liberal? I say no, see my post #30 and the link. Many a conversation I have had after church and they will not stop, sin must be shown for what it is, against God.
The devil loves to use deception and as the link points out Liberalism is a deception and path away from God and Jesus.
There are some very odd considerations here, and just blaming it on Satan does not seem to do it justice.
1) From the very beginning of the Bible, and the eating of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, mankind has often thought of itself in contention with God for supremacy. And all else being equal, this arrogance seems to top the list of the thing that tick God off.
A good example is the Tower of Babel, built with the plan for it to reach to heaven, so Nimrod and company would be “like gods”. Not that different, in its way, from Al Gore thinking he controls the weather.
Of course this philosophy, of supreme mankind, ‘Leviathan’, according to Thomas Hobbes, has more holes than a sponge, but that has not stopped endless philosophers from trying to somehow figure out a way to “make man in charge.”
For a great length of time, philosophers were thwarted by what God said to Moses when asked His name. “I AM THAT I AM”, is actually the most profound philosophical statements ever made, and it puts God clearly and uniquely in charge of everything.
The ice was finally broken by Rene Descartes, and it is no coincidence that his profound statement was “I think, therefore I am.” This amounts to, “Yeah, mankind is powerful, too.”
Back to Nimrod.
2) This leads to even greater weirdness, because almost all of the western philosophers had their grounding in religion and the Bible. So if man, not God, is supreme, they reasoned, the Bible must be rewritten with man, not God, in charge.
And thus was born socialism. It is, because it must be, inherently atheistic, despite any pretensions to religious liberalism. If they are religious, it is because they worship man, however, and even use a mental shorthand, of sorts, that since there is no God, praying to God is just praying to ourselves.
But then, as the expression goes, socialism “went full retard”, in trying to co-opt the Bible in its revisionism. The Garden of Eden, for example, was rewritten by Rousseau as The State of Nature, and from thence we see modern socialism’s nature worship, radical environmentalism.
Yet there are also a lot of dark sides to the religion of socialism. One being, as the Hebrews are the chosen people; so too the socialists think of themselves as “the elect”, precisely because they understand socialism, whereas the bulk of mankind are gentiles, the unwashed heathen who do not understand socialism. Thus the elite must rule over everyone else.
And this gets downright nasty, from slavery to genocide. All at the whim of the elites.
Well, all things considered, while Satan most certainly might have his hand in all of this, his role might have been entirely passive, just suggesting to Eve that she have a bite of fruit. Mankind could then do the rest itself.
Thanks for writing. Lots of good interesting points to be sure, except for the idea that Satan is passively involved in the affairs of men. The apostle Paul calls him the prince of the power of the air and the god of this world(Eph 2:2; 2 Cor 4:4). It is not either/or but both/and.
Very interesting in this context is the story of Boaz, kinsman redeemer in the book of Ruth.
I don’t think I do. Someone who is prideful would not do number 1 and number 2 in a public place. They would feel they are “above” that....which some are. A lot of them do not stay overnight. They go to a hotel or someones apt. to shower, do their “business”, etc., then come back. Them I see as prideful.
The rest of them are just full of envy. They want to take what others have.....they covet their neighbors belongings, which is why they continue to sh!t on it.
Even if they did not explicitly follow Satan, and I make no opinion about that, implicitly they did. There is but one path that leads to God; all others lead to Satan.
By their fruits shall ye now them, aan socialism has been fruiting for a long, ling time.
I don’t think so. Those were commands for the Children of Israel, not the Gentile nations. They were specific to a particular people in a particular time.
ON the other hand, we, as Christians, are supposed to be generous to the more unfortunate. As individuals, not as a corporate government.
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