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Unbelievable. This is blatant disregard for the rights of American citizens.
1 posted on 09/13/2011 12:18:03 PM PDT by Immerito
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To: Immerito
"Listen, kids. Your government is evil. Your government has soldiers who wear black uniforms and masks. They have guns. Big guns and lots of 'em. The government will come to your house at night, kick in the door and shoot your dog. If your Dad acts surprised, they will shoot him too.
Yes, Tommy?"

"Teacher, why are you telling us this?"

"Well, Tommy, we want you to know that questioning authority is never a good idea. And by the way, tell your Dad not to act surprised tonight, okay?"

2 posted on 09/13/2011 12:24:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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1)Go to wrong house at 3am.

2)Handcuff homeowner/wife and kids.

3)Hunt down and shoot family dog.

4)Ransack house.

5)Find out at wrong house.

6)Uncuff family members, warn them not to say anything under penalty of law.

7)Leave

3 posted on 09/13/2011 12:24:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I'm With The FAA And I'm Here To Help You.)
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To: Immerito

There are a lot more of us, then there are of them. Plenty of us have specialized military training as well. They are starting to get out of line.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 12:24:57 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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Considering when Chief Daryl Gates of the LAPD came up with the concept of SWAT. Its original definition was Special Weapons Attack Team.

I’ll let you take it from there.

Jack.


5 posted on 09/13/2011 12:28:56 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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This could have been written in any Fascist or Communist country to rave reviews. Goebbels would have been proud. Who the hell reads this crap? The Tactical Responder? Give me a break.


6 posted on 09/13/2011 12:29:47 PM PDT by Graneros (The most fundamental purpose of government is defense, not empire. – Joseph Sobran)
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Make deploying SWAT something that is routine, not something only done after much hand-wringing.

And they can do animal control, too!


7 posted on 09/13/2011 12:35:04 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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Does SWAT Need to Be Explained?

No, but the widespread use of SWAT teams needs to be seriously re-examined.

8 posted on 09/13/2011 12:35:35 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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Stay active. Yes, I mean do warrant service and drug raids even if you have to poach the work.

Disgusting.

9 posted on 09/13/2011 12:37:00 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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SWAT, explained:

It's been this way for 25 years. You're just now catching on.

10 posted on 09/13/2011 12:38:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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Make deploying SWAT something that is routine...

Disgusting-er...

11 posted on 09/13/2011 12:38:26 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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Does SWAT Need to Be Explained?

Not really.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 12:38:32 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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—as I have oft posted— SWAT teams should generally be disbanded, issued a .38 Special with two speedloaders, get equipped with a set of brogans with soles about an inch thick and given a beat to cover twice a night -on foot- starting about 10pm-—


16 posted on 09/13/2011 2:52:32 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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There are a few times a SWAT team is needed. A couple years ago some nut job here in Pittsburgh shot and killed three policemen who responded to a family fight. Killed the three ambush style.
Pittsburgh SWAT was call out and I think they did a damn good job. In the face of constant gunfire they drove their armored car on to the lawn to get the men shot{ They didnt know that they were dead}. they didnt shoot up the house{As I would have seeing three of my co-workers killed by a coward}. They talked to him, when One of the snipers shot the AK out of his hands.
The scumbag was captured alive{ A little scuffed up} and convicted on three counts of murder and hopefully will be seeing the needle,and the judge added 80 years onto his term so he will never get to see sunshine again.
All this cop hate is really disturbing. Yeah there are bad police. Sure they screw up. Some of the people here sound like they would have rooted for the man who killed the policemen who showed up that morning.


17 posted on 09/13/2011 2:58:30 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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First, your team needs the training time under true callout conditions.

Many so-called "SWAT" teams do the vast majority of their deployments against harmless victims. Good for them, since their tactics are so sloppy that they'd be mincemeat if they tried to attack someone with the skill and determination to fight back effectively. Not so good for their victims, though.

18 posted on 09/13/2011 3:54:28 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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Does SWAT Need to Be Explained?

Yes. Why do we need 90% of these would-be heroes?

Don’t let SWAT be that unknown. Make deploying SWAT something that is routine,...

No, really, don't.

28 posted on 09/13/2011 6:06:40 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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"Yes, I mean do warrant service and drug raids even if you have to poach the work."

I thought poaching was a crime. Good thing most State Fish & Wildlife Departments have their own SWAT teams, too!

30 posted on 09/13/2011 6:35:30 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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or as Radley Balko put it “Practice on the People” ...
for what? what’s the game plan.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 9:08:22 PM PDT by cycjec
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SWAT teams, even the better ones, are going to make operations errors.


Is an “operational error” when they break your door down and plug you and your dog? Or is it when they break your door down, terrorize the kiddos, throw you and your wife and kids on the floor and then figure out they have the wrong address?

It looks like SWATS are getting SWATted by citizens and ole Ed is doing some urgent salvage work. He’s one of these homeland security educational experts who teaches local police officers to act as an invading army, occupying enemy territory, and surrounded by terrorists.


32 posted on 09/13/2011 9:55:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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We really do need to explain that SWAT is less of a threat than the people in the calls we are responding to—you know, those vewy, vewy bad people.

Yep, people that have a bench warrent out for them for traffic tickets. Such a horror!

Don't forget to go to the wrong house and shoot the family pets.

Enough with the SWAT nonsence. I am sure it seemed like a good idea but really when they are having to go along to serve warrents, which used to be served by a cop who knocked on your door rather then breaking it down, just to have something to do there is no need for them.

35 posted on 09/14/2011 5:55:04 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Can we ask questions which God finds unanswerable? Easily. All nonsense questions are unanswerable.)
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Mr. Sanow is obviously an enemy of freedom, the Constitution, and the American people. He should be treated accordingly.


37 posted on 09/18/2011 8:44:35 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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