e-LOLcat.
Posted on 05/09/2011 7:33:35 PM PDT by Liberty1970
The Italian energy catalyzer that seems to be based on an unknown nuclear reaction is now patented in Italy. The examination continues regarding protection in the rest of the world.
The Italian Patent Office, Ufficio Italiano Brevetti e Marchi, granted a patent for the energy catalyzer on April 6, 2011, valid until April 9, 2028.
The inventor is Andrea Rossi, while his wife Maddalena Pascucci is the patent owner.
The final content of the patent is public but not directly available online (details on how to order the content can be found here).
According to Rossi ten of the original 15 claims remain (see below).
It is not clear if the patent means that the secret details of the energy catalyst can be revealed.
“Now I have to think and, based on the effective patent protection, we can decide what to disclose,” Andrea Rossi said.
The patent office in Italy confirmed that it is a normal patent which was granted after technical examination of the filed application.
(Excerpt) Read more at nyteknik.se ...
Something that can power a home, vehicle, and cook breakfast? How much?
This is great news, and adds a lot more credibility to Rossi’s claims.
I’ve noticed a change in mood on this subject around these parts lately. The last thread on the E-cat was a pleasure to read. When I first posted an article about it some time back, I was almost instantly buried in skeptics.
Home nuke ping!
But if you are asking about the cost to produce, the financial resources of the inventor are finite - no more than a few million $. And in Q&A sessions he mentions making around two thousand prototypes. Even assuming these were largely recycled, the implication is that they are not terribly expensive to build. The prototypes shown in demonstrations to date are quite small even with the thick shields and pipe apparatus.
They have also worked reliably in the demonstrations. This suggests the technology is not terribly complex and is robust even in the prototype stage. Again, this suggests the devices will be fairly simple and cheap to build - regardless of what they can charge for them.
It seems absurd, but I an others here have been tracking this story since January, and it has not been debunked (but is rather running in the opposite direction.) Crazy.
ShadowAce, since I am a TECH PING LIST member and read of the E-cat first there, I thought you might like reading this article regarding the device’s being granted a patent. This may not be ping-worthy, but I hope you keep TECH LIST pingees informed of this, whether it crashes and burns or breaks new, unexpected ground. We will know in a few months. Thanks for your great list.
e-LOLcat.
What about Pons and Fleishman?
Is it possible that catalytic nuclear will see the light of day?
“This is great news, and adds a lot more credibility to Rossi’s claims.”
I began reading about the E-Cat about 10 days ago. I posted after that, that I believed that this device seems to have moved beyond the hoax stage. I generally stand by that uninformed assessment. Hopeful but skeptical until the large indistrial application is up and running and all can see that it works on the large scale.
I say this because I had great hope in the TDP process about 10 years or so ago. It seemed to worked well enough in a lab environment but it failed in the effort to scale it up to an industrial-sized process.
According to some articles I've read here, Pons and Fleishman were falsely discredited by the government/scientific establishment. Apparently, they really were on to something.
Nano-powderized nickel?
Does this mean that nanos are present within this apparatus?
Like you, I don't have the technical grounding to discuss this invention in anything but layman's terms, but from what I understand, Rossi plans to daisy-chain an array of his small devices together to achieve the next greater level of energy output.
Others have speculated on why he's chosen to do that, instead of scaling up the size of his reactor.
If this is the real meal deal we will be running our homes off of a device and maybe when you move to a new house you can just take your energy cell with you. It is going to be great. No more electric and gas bills.
ping
No Shiite!
It was rather obvious the day that a researcher in Menlo Park blew himself to kingdom come by sealing the mix in a stainless steel cylinder!
The MSM were so kind as to inform us that he was NOT working on CF.
Thanks, Civ.
Cold Fusion Ping
My understanding is that maximizing the surface area of the nickel is vital to achieving kilowatt-scale output. The smaller the particles, the greater the surface area for a given mass of nickel.
Windflier, I suspect they are limiting the size of each E-cat right now due to safety/control issues. They've described how earlier experiments gave power outputs a good deal higher than seen in the public demonstrations, to the point that they were concerned about an explosion or overheating and so on. So it's probably better to daisy-chain small, easily controllable units at this point than try to build a great big megawatt class reactor whose reaction chamber is too big to quickly adjust or shut down in an emergency.
I imagine we'll see a lot of refinement as real engineering resources begin to be applied to the E-cat technology. At this point it's just the inventor and some academics I've seen involved with the E-cat, not really industrial/commercial types, so far as I've noticed. Getting it to produce electricity, and to serve as a powertrain for vehicles, will take some work.
And for all I know something like the vibration of a vehicle in motion might wreck the reaction process (I doubt it, but I'm just saying there could conceivably be some kind of show-stopper for some applications). Still a lot of unknowns at this point. But I am hopeful.
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