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MIT's Peter Hagelstein: "We would love to do a test of the E-Cat"
Free Energy Times ^ | April 15, 2011

Posted on 04/15/2011 5:34:37 PM PDT by Normandy

There are some indications today that the mainstream scientific community's attitude towards cold fusion and specifically the Rossi/Focardi energy catalyzer may not be as dismissive as some may seem.

An article by Natalie Wolchover on the website Life's Little Mysteries today included a review of the E-cat and comments from some leading researchers in the field of nuclear science -- and an interesting invitation was extended by one of them.

(Excerpt) Read more at freeenergytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
KEYWORDS: andrearossi; coldfusion; ecat; energy; mit; peterhagelstein; rossiecat; stringtheory
An MIT professor is interested in testing the Rossi energy catalyzer. I wonder if Rossi will oblige?
1 posted on 04/15/2011 5:34:44 PM PDT by Normandy
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To: Normandy

This is a mighty contentious subject. Last time I posted a thread on it, it went almost 200 posts.

If Rossi accepts the invitation, it will show that he’s got a great deal of confidence in his claims. If not.....


2 posted on 04/15/2011 5:40:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yes, contentious indeed. I think a yea or nay from MIT (or even a maybe) would make a big difference in the debate.


3 posted on 04/15/2011 5:45:27 PM PDT by Normandy
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To: Windflier
Humbug.
4 posted on 04/15/2011 5:47:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Normandy

5 posted on 04/15/2011 5:48:13 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Normandy
I think a yea or nay from MIT (or even a maybe) would make a big difference in the debate.

It definitely would -- if the developer will allow them to test it at all. The ball is suddenly in his court. His response to this offer will tell everyone all they need to know.

6 posted on 04/15/2011 5:49:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Normandy

Inviting such testing from multiple universities would certainly help to gain credibility.


7 posted on 04/15/2011 5:49:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Normandy
None of this stuff is patented because it is unpatentable. Certain claims have been deemed upatentable because they require unknown energy sources or perpetual motion.

I wouldn't let one of the guys from MIT get near my stuff if I thought he thought there might be something to it one way or the other.

8 posted on 04/15/2011 5:49:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SirKit

Ping!


9 posted on 04/15/2011 5:58:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Normandy

We’re watching history unfold I believe.

I could be wrong but I really hope I’m not. Think how this would change our world. It would reshape humanity.


10 posted on 04/15/2011 6:20:51 PM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: SpringtoLiberty

Yeah. The UN would claim it for “the benefit of the global village.” It would indeed usher in a new era. One I’d rather sit out.


11 posted on 04/15/2011 6:32:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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Thanks Normandy.

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12 posted on 04/15/2011 6:51:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Normandy
"Caltech’s David Goodstein says in the article that a major problem with cold fusion research has been the inability for researchers to replicate experimental evidence with any level of consistency. He states, “”What you need is either total reproducibility or total irreproducibility,” to definitely rule cold fusion in or out." Um, last I checked, that's NOT SCIENCE. Nor is it even possible.

And this is the physicist from CalTech? That's reassuring.

13 posted on 04/15/2011 6:55:47 PM PDT by PENANCE
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To: Normandy
Testing would be required under any circumstance. Except for funding.
14 posted on 04/15/2011 6:56:45 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Normandy

Who cares what a bunch of professors think, if it produces energy inexpensively, it is a winner. I could care less how it runs, just IF it runs.


15 posted on 04/15/2011 7:06:07 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Normandy

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16 posted on 04/15/2011 10:14:50 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Normandy; barracuda1412; SunkenCiv; neverdem; dila813
Some technical comments:

http://aleklett.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/rossi-energy-catalyst-a-big-hoax-or-new-physics/#comments

and a strange answer by Rossi to Hagelstein:

Market

Dear Mr Frank:
I receive every day requests from all the world of Universities, Associations, Laboratories from any Country, of any kind which want to make an “indipendent” test to offer us the only possible real validation of the technology. Should I accept, 24 hours per day, 365days per year would not be enough to be so much validated. I respect all the wannavalidate of the Planet, but I want to remember that:
1- In October we will start deliver to our Customers our plants, so that the validation will be made by the Customers: they will use our plants 24 hours per day, 365 days per year. That is the sole real validation that counts for us, also because if the plants work, Customers will pay us, if not, they will not pay us. The plants have to respect precise guarantees we gave about their efficiency and their safety. We are not searching any validation. We never did. We just wanted to make a good product.We have already made our public presentations, no more of them will be made. With the University of Bologna we will continue the R&D program, but not to “validate”: the validation must arrive from the market. The aim of the R&D program with the University of Bologna, financed by us, and therefore made with our money, is to develope our future, not to “validate”. Not to mention the fact that the real target of the wannabe validators, in 99 cases out of 100, is to get information and make industrial espionage, as already occurred to me with another “validator” with whom we severed any collaboration after getting evidence of the fact that data obtained from us have been utilized for a competition.
2- I thank anyway Prof. Peter Hagelstein for his attention. If the MIT is interested to our product, they can buy a plant, and make all the validations they want, for themselves, and get from it good heating too, during the hard Bostonian winters ( I lived there for some year, mamma mia, che freddo!)
Warm regards,
A.R.

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473&cpage=3#comment-33250
Follow the money...

17 posted on 04/16/2011 2:16:10 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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