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1 posted on 02/28/2011 12:05:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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“because humans now move around the globe far faster than evolution can adjust for the sun”

More to it than just that. Blacks in northern climates who supplement their diet with vitamin D are under no selective constraints to have lighter skin. Similarly, whites in equatorial climates who wear covering and sun screen are also under no selective pressure to have darker skin.

But if there is another mechanism, other than evolution through natural selection of genetic variation, that explains why different human populations look differently and are locally adapted to environmental conditions - I would certainly like to hear it.

2 posted on 02/28/2011 12:09:57 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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So, if my family had moved to florida at one point, I or some of my heirs might be black??


3 posted on 02/28/2011 12:15:17 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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In the tropics, natural selection created darkly pigmented individuals to protect against the sun.

Intersting. I would have guessed that in the tropics natural selection would have FAVORED darkly pigmented individuals. I had NO idea that a theory could be imbued with the power of creation.

6 posted on 02/28/2011 12:20:59 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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Tanning evolved for humans so that when ultraviolet B radiation increases in early spring, the skin gradually darkens. As the sun becomes stronger, the tan deepens. During the winter, as ultraviolet B wanes, so does the tan,

One of the worst sunburns I've ever gotten on my face occurred in the dead of winter, on a ski slope. This is not uncommon. "Tanning" also occurs due to wind and cold.

Either someone is not very good at explaining themselves, or the theory needs work.

7 posted on 02/28/2011 12:22:04 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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15 posted on 02/28/2011 12:33:00 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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Every evo knows that blacks are millions of years behind on evolution and are closer to chimps than whites.- Darwin, Hitler, and Karl Marx. They should be aborted to raise the quality of the human race.- Margret Sanger.

This pigment "science" is the same thing.

20 posted on 02/28/2011 12:37:56 PM PST by chuckles
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Scientists have understood for years that evolutionary selection of skin pigmentation was caused by the sun. As human ancestors gradually lost their pelts to allow evaporative cooling through sweating, their naked skin was directly exposed to sunlight. In the tropics, natural selection created darkly pigmented individuals to protect against the sun.

I am realy having a hard time getting my arms around all of this.
Since when does pimgntation protect from the sun ?


23 posted on 02/28/2011 12:43:06 PM PST by stylin19a ("Marine Sniper - You can run, but you'll just die tired!")
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This is hogwash. They are trying to use apples to prove oranges.

No one denies that existing physical traits will become dominat or recessive based on environmental conditions.

If a famine comes along, the people that naturally carry more fat tend to survive the famine (and reproduce). The people that naturally didn’t store much fat die (and don’t reproduce). Humans as a group become “fatter”.

But it doesn’t explain where the fat cells came from to begin with. That’s the big question evolution can’t answer.

What this article describes is nothing more than selective breeding. Anyone adept at breeding animals can produce these kind of changes. A great example is the dog.

The dog is an animal breed 100% created by mankind. Wolves took up with humans. By selectively breeding wolves, we produced dogs (a lot of differnt kinds of dogs). But the truth is, a dog is (in every way that matters) exactly like a wolf. Everything about a dog—from hair to organs—is just a variation on a wolf.

Evoluntion talks about jumps. New species developing from existing species. There isn’t any evidence for that at all.


25 posted on 02/28/2011 12:49:20 PM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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Skin color: Handy tool for teaching evolution

MICRO-evolution, that is, which isn't what evolution is really about. I want to know what skin color has to do with evolving from an amoeba.

ML/NJ

28 posted on 02/28/2011 12:53:50 PM PST by ml/nj
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Professors in universities can teach whatever nonsense they wish, but teachers in public schools should not waste class time with discussions on origins.


29 posted on 02/28/2011 12:55:10 PM PST by pallis
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Actually, it’s a good example of genetic selection.

None of these people have evolved into another species, have they? That is what evolution teaches. That one species mutates over time into a better, more highly evolved and complex, species.

If which case, which of the directions we are headed (black, white, or Asian) is the “better” one? I know black people are more susceptible to diabetes, sickle cell anemia, and high blood pressure.

Are they on the “old species” side? Are whites the new and improved? We are more susceptible to skin cancer, right?

Are we speciating now? Is that what is going on?

(insert eyeroll)


31 posted on 02/28/2011 12:55:41 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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Has anyone else noticed a change in the vocabulary of the evolution faithful???

Just like the climate faithful had to change their rhetoric when global warming was debunked, so, too, have the evolutionists had to change their rhetoric with more and more evidence of intelligent design, and, therefore, a Designer.

The sly change: Instead of evolution being the origination of all species from a single cell (as was the previous montra), they now speak of adaption as evolution.

For the uninitiated (or willingly ignorant):

- Adaption (species adapting to their environment, even when that environment changes) is undisputed - it’s part of the design.

- Evolution (all species originating from a single cell) continues to be an unproven theory, while the proof of intelligent design and creation continues to grow.


36 posted on 02/28/2011 1:07:27 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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Adaptation, not evolution. We are all still humans and will always all still be humans.


41 posted on 02/28/2011 1:32:35 PM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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.......according to a Penn State anthropologist....

Stopped right there! Probably has a "trick" to "hide this- or-that" Just like that Mann guy up at Penn who's tree ring BS was heavily supplemented with BU!!SH!T.....

If you think about it. If it isn't a formulaic provable function and you rely on samples from different places, he who controls what samples from where controls the outcome.

45 posted on 02/28/2011 1:48:39 PM PST by Gaffer
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OK, so Glowball Warming causes skin to darken...is that the gist of this..../sarc

So Al Gore is against Glowball Warming = Al Gore is a Racist


46 posted on 02/28/2011 1:49:00 PM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha! No! Stop! You’re killing me! Oh! Let me catch my breath! Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha! Really! Where do they find these people? Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!


49 posted on 02/28/2011 2:14:26 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer.")
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Skin color related to EVOLUTION? Talk about POLITICALLY INCORRECT!!


50 posted on 02/28/2011 2:16:03 PM PST by 2harddrive
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Hmmm...3.5 million years of natural selection in isolation and no new species of genus homo, just variations of skin color and complete interbreeding capacity. Wonder why.


52 posted on 02/28/2011 2:24:08 PM PST by Chaguito
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.... oh, dear. This will not sit well with the “no genetic basis for race” crowd....


53 posted on 02/28/2011 2:31:44 PM PST by r9etb
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A quick test for evolutionary religious zealots:

- How many DNA pairs are in the human genome?

- How many of those human DNA pairs differ from those of a chimp?

- How long would it take for a human to evolve from a chimp, assuming the necessary DNA mutations take place in exactly the right sequence, without any mistakes, and at the rate that is survivable.


119 posted on 03/01/2011 7:31:29 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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