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Sluggish? Confused? Vitamin B12 May Be Low
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Posted on 01/19/2011 3:53:18 AM PST by JoeProBono

Tired? Depressed? Forgetting things? Who isn't these days?

Those are also symptoms of a deficiency of B12, a key nutrient needed to make red blood cells and DNA and keep the nervous system working right.....

"B12 deficiency is much more common than the textbooks and journal articles say it is," says Alan Pocinki, an internist in Washington D.C., who routinely tests his patients who fall into those categories. He also notes that since the Metformin connection was discovered only recently,

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TOPICS: Food
KEYWORDS: b12; b12deficiency; health; nutrition; supplements; vitaminb12; vitamins
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1 posted on 01/19/2011 3:53:20 AM PST by JoeProBono
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Sluggish? Confused?

Damn...now liberals will have a different excuse.

2 posted on 01/19/2011 3:55:35 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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I have found that I benefit from B12 injections. I’m following this research with a lot of interest.


3 posted on 01/19/2011 3:59:15 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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To: catfish1957

May not be getting enough ketchup.


4 posted on 01/19/2011 4:02:53 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Jemian

My mom has really started feeling better after getting those B12 shots

I`m following how this goes as well


5 posted on 01/19/2011 4:11:41 AM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Jemian

Is there any reason why a vitamin suppliment wouldn’t do the same thing?


6 posted on 01/19/2011 4:26:35 AM PST by reagan_fanatic
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Yes. It has to do with absorbtion. Many of us lack the ability to absorb the B12 present within food. Therefore, swallowing pills will not cause it to enter the blood stream.

I’ve tried the sublingual tablets and letting it disolve under the tongue. I don’t get the same results.

I began my B12 overseas and have been able to acquire what I need there. I inject myself. It really isn’t hard to do.


7 posted on 01/19/2011 4:34:17 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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I’ve never tried the shots. I hate shots . . . had to have shots after getting bitten by a stray dog when I was six, in the stomach, arm and butt.

So I take the sublingual and can usually tell a difference in 72 or so hours taking 2-3 twice a day.

How often do you do the shots?


8 posted on 01/19/2011 4:46:19 AM PST by Qwackertoo (New Day In America November 03, 2010)
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To: JoeProBono

This is a very important vitamin. Both my father in law and my mother, both elderly, ended up in the hospital. The problem? Extremely low vitamin B12.


9 posted on 01/19/2011 4:50:22 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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Yes, sublingual vitamin B12, unless your extremely low, then they give you shots for that. My mother gets a shot once a month. Not sure how long that’ll go on. My father in law I believe was getting them weekly for awhile.


10 posted on 01/19/2011 4:52:09 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Jemian

I take large doses of B complex every day. I can tell such a difference. My restless leg syndrome is almost gone and I have so much more energy.


11 posted on 01/19/2011 4:52:51 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: JoeProBono

When I tried drinking Red Bull, I was like, “Wow! I’m smart again! Forget wings... this gives me brain cells!” Then, I read several articles saying the who Taurine fad was a load of nonsense; that Red Bull merely was a caffeine-based stimulant. Since coffee or soda makes me feel LESS intelligent, that explanation didn’t wash with me. But I noticed Red Bull also contains lots of vitamin B-12, so I tried taking B-12 supplements.

The liquid-form B-12 supplements have a similar effect as Red Bull. I’m guessing the solid-form ones I’ve had just aren’t digested as well. But I’m fairly certain that B-12 is a key ingredient to why Red Bull has such an effect on me.


12 posted on 01/19/2011 4:55:38 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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13 posted on 01/19/2011 4:58:31 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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Curious whether either of you have had any experience with liquid-form B-12, energy drinks, etc. Post #12 is about my experience with energy drinks, which contain high doses of B-12.


14 posted on 01/19/2011 4:58:40 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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To: Jemian

The other thing that can make you feel terrible is if your vitamin D is low. And believe it our not the majority of American’s don’t get enough vitamin D. You need direct sunlight for about 10-20 minutes, several times a week, without sun block. If you live in the north, that can be more often. And in the in winter, even if you could go out in the sun with nothing on all day in the far north, you’d get no vitamin D. The darker your skin is, the longer you have to be in the sun. Also, the heavier you are, the harder it is for your body to produce the D you need. There is also a connection between low D and a bunch of different cancers. Including breast, prostate and even skin cancer.


15 posted on 01/19/2011 4:58:56 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: catfish1957

B-12 is water-soluble and quickly metabolized. Relatively harmless in normal dosing but probably only useful in certain forms of anemia. Unfortunately we urinate away most vitamin supplements which probably aren’t necessary if you eat a healthy, balanced diet. Good luck though.


16 posted on 01/19/2011 5:00:03 AM PST by Doc Savage
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17 posted on 01/19/2011 5:01:46 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Qwackertoo

I, too, hate shots. I used to have weekly and then monthly allergy shots all the way through grades 2 - 12. But I began this treatment living in the jungle of Papua and the nurses didn’t want to spend their time on it and so I learned.

I inject in the muscle of my thigh and I inject at least 2 mg each week. If I use less than that, I begin having dizzy spells, can’t look up into the sky or up a tree and lose my footing going down stairs. I also stop driving because moving objects lose their correct place in the universe. Another symptom I develop is a creepy, fungus-in-the-brain, fuzzy headache. It feels like a fungus begins growing in between my brain and my skull. I know that is probably not a good description but it is the best I’ve come up with. When I have a regular, steady intake of B12 these symptoms disappear.

There are other symptoms that I have, too, but I’m afraid I’ve bored you.


18 posted on 01/19/2011 5:05:29 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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To: dangus

Other key depression-causing micronutrient deficiencies:

Magnesium: Absorption, again, is key. Most supplements use Magnesium Hydroxide (MgOH), which is useless.

Vitamin D: Seasonal Affective Disorder? Nah, probably Vitamin D deficiency.

Calcium: It’s not the total amount of calcium you consume; it’s how much you consume relative to phosphorus. And phosphoric acid is what gives cola that special tingle. And what makes a certain Iced Tea, “Brisk.”


19 posted on 01/19/2011 5:05:57 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. John Crysostom ("the Golden-Mouthed"))
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To: JoeProBono

Precisely. But I prefer vials to ampules. I hate snapping that top off.


20 posted on 01/19/2011 5:07:22 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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