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Need Serious Help.
12/1/10 | me

Posted on 12/11/2010 4:28:00 PM PST by NoGrayZone

To make a long story short.... as a child, my brother saw a demon outside our window (back then you had to have the tv by a window because of heat generated). He saw this demon "dancing" around our window. He has been plagued w/ nothing but horror.

Now, in these days, he has over come his demons; however, his first born son has seen this demon, a few months ago, outside his window. His first born son described to him ( at first reluctant that he would not be believed) the same thing my brother saw as a child. My brother was stunned.

We need help. I truly believe in satan and his demons to be as real as we are. What can we do? Who do we turn to?

Some may see this as nonsense, but we are living this in real life. Can anyone help us or at least lead us to someone who can help?


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Conspiracy; Pets/Animals; Religion; UFO's
KEYWORDS: child; demons; inthenameofjesusgo; needserioushelp; prayer; satan; spiritualwarfare
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To: metmom; Williams; NoGrayZone; little jeremiah

Ooops, sorry about the double post.

Not sure how that happened.

BTW, that should be .....

“You talk like someone who has very LITTLE experience with children.”


301 posted on 12/11/2010 10:33:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Lots of conflicting advice on this thread, from all sides.

Find people whose wisdom and discernment you TRUST (i.e. won't jump to conclusions "it was a demon, oh noes" nor mocking skeptics).

Pray with them that the Lord will give you wisdom about the proper next steps to take.

Heed and obey the Lord's instructions.

...and I'm praying for you.

302 posted on 12/11/2010 10:35:05 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: little jeremiah

I also read a LOT to my kids.

And we’d point things out in the pictures, talk about what was going on, what might happen next, they’d ask what the words said.

My two oldest were reading at four as well on the closer to five end of it.

We got my oldest daughter the Little House series for her sixth birthday, which was just where she was reading wise.

That said, kids ARE capable of far more than most adults give them credit for. I think this is a real disservice to the children.

A four year old is capable of giving an accurate and factual account of what they see.


303 posted on 12/11/2010 10:40:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I will never speak of what I saw. I was a straight arrow kid with no mental problems. Good student, good athlete, and clean cut. Still am.

On my Son's life, I swear I witnessed something....unholy.

304 posted on 12/11/2010 10:41:04 PM PST by MattinNJ (Palin and/or Pence.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Satan fears Jesus, because he knows Jesus has the victory. Christ is Risen.


305 posted on 12/11/2010 10:43:43 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: metmom

It’s all how they’re raised. If adults converse rationally to them, and read to them, and energize their minds, little children are quite amazing. I spoke to them rationally from when they were born, and they understood words at a few months old. Surprised me!

TV is not good for kids...


306 posted on 12/11/2010 10:46:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Williams; NoGrayZone; metmom
Two little kids seeing “something” a generation apart?

Like Haley's Comet?

307 posted on 12/11/2010 10:48:51 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: metmom

At four years old, I was writing complete sentences. I remember getting yelled at by an older sister for writing in her books.

:-D


308 posted on 12/11/2010 10:50:28 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: NoGrayZone

Remember we are not the children of fear but of Grace. The devil and his ilk are all liars. They will oppress you and try to break you down. YOU CAN NOT FIGHT THEM ON YOUR OWN. Only by calling on the shed blood of Christ can you resist and vanquish these foes. Pray, pray, pray. Rid your home of any spiritual pollution. Any one ever dabble in the occult? Get rid of any paraphenalia. Was there ever a suicide by a close family member or friend? Ask your pastor to offer up prayers of deliverence since demons often gain a foothold in the anger and despair of suicides.

Christ before me. Have a prayer shield and use it. Call on your guardian angel to aid you. Confess any sins to God and trust in Him alone.


309 posted on 12/11/2010 10:50:51 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NoGrayZone
The child is 4 and no it’s a different house....totally far removed from where my brother has seen it.

Ok serious question. Is the 4 yr old taking any kind of prescription or OTC medication for say an allergy or cold or any combinations of other meds with it? Some medications are capable of producing adverse reactions which can induce halucinations in people.

310 posted on 12/11/2010 11:05:31 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: metmom; j.argese
[j.argese:] Satan doesn’t fear Jesus. You might recall a certain temptation in the wilderness? If Jesus were the son of God, if not that, as Jew he would have recognized him as “The Accuser”, a servant or agent of God.

You're right. I never thought of it that way. He must obey Him, though.

He may not have feared Him THEN, But satan certainly fears Him NOW... Let's not forget Christ's "promotion" at the resurrection! :D

311 posted on 12/11/2010 11:07:46 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

Well, It’s not something I’ve ever thought about before.

I’ll have to consider it some more.

Either way, he still has no choice about whether he obeys Jesus; like it or not.


312 posted on 12/11/2010 11:14:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Well, It’s not something I’ve ever thought about before.

Yeah... different angle.... I get it...

But he knows his time is short, and he knows the outcome... I doubt that he does anything but fear Christ and the power of His Name.

What is more to the point is whether or not folks are standing upon THE FOUNDATION, that they might walk into the Holy place boldly, having a real and true access to that powerful Name.

It is a matter of faith - There is no question that with the faith to make it stick, a Christian is a fearful thing to satan - for that Christian stands in the shadow (or rather, the light) of our mighty Lord:

Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

There is no doubt that the accuser (an arch-demon for those on the thread who say demons no longer exist) would not for a minute flee from the threat of my scrawny carcass... So it is apparent to me that it is the power of the Mighty One which sends him scurrying back to his dark abyss.

Either way, he still has no choice about whether he obeys Jesus; like it or not.

That's a bare fact.

313 posted on 12/11/2010 11:35:25 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: NoGrayZone

seriously — whether you are Catholic or not, reach out to your nearest Catholic parish and ask for an exorcist to come and investigate. Don’t worry if you get scoffed. This may be nothing, this may be just imagination, but then again it may be the same demonic presence — take action now. You do not have to be Catholic to get the help of an exorcist


314 posted on 12/11/2010 11:54:34 PM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: j.argese; Grizzled Bear; NoGrayZone
Satan does fear Him, that is why he tried to tempt him, kind of like Sauron trying to tempt, say Gandalf == Satan hoped to neutralize his biggest challenge. With the risen Lord, Satan shrinks in fear and fright.

Sometimes I've woken at 3 am with some nameless fear of some presence and I just recite the name of Jesus Christ and the Our Father and that fear goes away. It may be just a bad dream you may say, but I notice this happens only when I've been exceptionally good the previous day, almost like someone wanting to knock out a minor private in the army. And yet just by praying and calling on the name of the Lord, this seems to go away.

Maybe I'm dealing with a minor soldier in the enemy's army, in Nograyzone's case, this may be a far more powerful principality etc -- which requires utter faith to vanquish. Which is a good point -- Satan fears us if we do a little bit of good, but saints who do a lot of good get horribly attacked by Satan: that shows Satan's desperation, Satan's fear, and against the Lord, Satan is utterly terrified.
315 posted on 12/12/2010 12:02:03 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: j.argese; kitkat; Grizzled Bear; Quix
Also, qith due respect to your point -- Jesus DID recognize Satan as the Accuser and took Satan on (and won).

Do I detect in your question that age-old quandry: "if God created Satan, isn't Satan an agent of God? And refer to Job"?

However, that is a different theme, but for this particular thread it is sufficie the Satan fears and leaves when the name of the Lord is called upon.
316 posted on 12/12/2010 12:05:56 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie))
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To: potlatch; NoGrayZone

For those who are non-believers, and there are many here, this is an issue that brings out the worst in people.

I am a believer in the Bible. The Bible references satan, and his capabilities many times.

NGZ, I will pray in agreement with you.

Now, I’m off of this thread. ;o)


317 posted on 12/12/2010 12:49:44 AM PST by dixiechick2000 ("First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi)
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To: NoGrayZone

Ellel Ministries might be helpful, good website, plus locations around the globe,

http://www.ellelministries.org/


318 posted on 12/12/2010 12:56:39 AM PST by Joya
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

If my posts have nothing useful for you, by all means, skip them.


319 posted on 12/12/2010 2:24:13 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

Jung was definitely into the occult. Seriously into the occult.


320 posted on 12/12/2010 2:25:00 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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