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Don't let FreeRepublic become DemocratUnderground.
11/18/2010 | Me

Posted on 11/18/2010 10:38:27 AM PST by Democrats hate too much

Free Republic is a pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty constitutional conservative activist web site. Those who cannot live with that should simply stay away!! (saves wear and tear on my zot button - bitterly clinging redneck, Jim)

Romney is an unrepentant abortionist/statist lying political whore! Just to be absolutely clear, there will never ever be a RINO Romney campaign on FR!! If he somehow becomes the nominee, FR will be running a full-time campaign to DEFEAT him!! If you wish to support him then I suggest you sign off FR and onto Wankers for Mitt!!


Those statments make me worry that FreeRepublic is moving toward a DemocratUnderground kind of stance toward their users. Romney may have done some mistakes like Health Car but I have constantly heard him say that universal helath care was a mistake. If I'm wrong, so what. Lets not kick good Republicans off this site because of their views on abortion and Mitt Romney. Look, if someone says something good about Romney, fine. State your point and try to change that person's views. We are not kicking them off the site! That is DemocratUnderground style dumb. It's what they do.


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To: Reddy

Jim said that speakers had God based messages.


421 posted on 11/18/2010 7:39:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

I’ve been through a lot on FR with trolls, re-treads, people who pretend they are something other than what they are, and so on.

I apologize if suspected you wrongly and you’re sincere.


422 posted on 11/18/2010 7:47:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: wagglebee

Indeed. Thank you for sharing your views, dear brother in Christ!


423 posted on 11/18/2010 7:48:23 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: DJ MacWoW

I just apologized if I did indeed jump the gun!


424 posted on 11/18/2010 7:53:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

No problem jeremiah. I understand your cautiousness and skepticism. I apologize for getting out of line verbally.


425 posted on 11/18/2010 7:55:03 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

When I joined FR in 2002 I jumped in with both feet, no lurking or waiting. Five minutes after I found it, I registered.

I immediately started fighting leftist crap as well as learning a tremendous amount. It’s all here.


426 posted on 11/18/2010 7:56:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Yeah I really like the media links. I can keep up with the news. I pretty much only get CNN up here (although years ago I watched Rush Limbaugh).


427 posted on 11/18/2010 8:02:25 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: ansel12

Another look at my posting history would find that I’m not the type to “call on friends”. I am perfectly capable of carrying my own argument, and reserve pinging for times when another freeper is mentioned, or if I know they will be interested in a discussion.

There are people who ping all their buddies to back them up, but I’m not one of them.

I’m hardly “famous” for anything, but it’s not for hiding my opinion. The reason I liked the “Swiss Ninja” is because it was so hilariously funny, not because a sane person would think it rationally described my posting style.

The reason I seemed like a “reasonable” person who was hard to stereotype is because I am a reasonable person who decides what he thinks based on his philosophy, rather than trying to twist a philosophy to support a favored position. And unlike some people, I could distinguish between personal and political philosophy on one hand, and the imprecise and sometimes unfulfilling act of having to choose from real candidates on the other. (or really more realistically, I was more clear about that, while others found it politically expedient to pretend differently).

I found it odd that so many people really loved one candidate, and actively tried to destroy all the other candidates in defense of their chosen candidate. I fault myself for simply not thinking in that way, and therefore not understanding. I rarely get emotionally involved in a candidate. They are people who control themselves, and I don’t like to commit my happiness to people whose actions I can’t control.

So for me, I could support multiple candidates for the same position. In fact, it was frustrating seeing so many others tearing down candidates, leaving us with nobody standing, because it just seemed unproductive to me.

A few people, who probably had as much trouble understanding this as I have of understanding the “my candidate or else” people, simply refused to believe that anybody could be wired to think differently from them, so they assumed that because I expressed support for multiple candidates, I was somehow hiding my support for one candidate.

I guess you might be one of those, but I believe most people DO understand, because there were a lot of us here who expressed the same thing. And everybody seemed to understand when Rush Limbaugh named multiple candidates who he could support, even though he had a preference.

So I guess you’ll never believe that I did not have a personal preference in the 2008 race. In fact, I was really hoping Thompson could pull it off, because I liked him well enough, and knew that Romney had a major negative perception that could not be overcome with a segment of the conservative population (as did Huckabee).

Devious and slippery are useless in persuasive argument. Sly can be useful, if it is deployed in the right way, for example see Mark Antony’s speech about Brutus and Caesar; my personal favorite is Robert Frost’s poem “Provide”.

But slyness is only useful in small doses. The best persuasive technique is forceful truthfulness — taking your opponents best arguments, and dismantling them. It’s how we won debating contests, and it’s how you bring people to your side of an argument, not by pretending the opponent’s arguments don’t exist, but by demonstrating the superiority of your point of view.

I guess it’s that perspective that most makes me believe that the site policy won’t acheive it’s goal — because by presenting one side of an argument and banning people from making an opposing argument, you will only convince the undecided that your arguments can’t hold up under scrutiny.

BUT, in a world where most people aren’t trying to persuade, but are simply and blindly repeating their own talking points hoping to simply overwhelm the discussion, a ban is the right way to stop that. And I’ll have to admit that for some, that’s all they really want to do here.


428 posted on 11/18/2010 8:35:04 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You sure have a different image of your Romney trolling than the rest of us have, way to tell yourself how wonderful you are.


429 posted on 11/18/2010 8:40:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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To: Eaker

Go watch your idiot TV, the great Cowboys and support you sh*ty RINO GOP in Texas that serves up open border DIABLO idiots like Rick Perry, Kay Bailey (gag) and Corn Cob Cornyn.

The fricking GOP in Texas is filled with a bunch of LBJ wannabes. They all drink Lone Star Beer like a bunch of big sissies.


430 posted on 11/18/2010 9:13:55 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: dashing doofus

‘I think the time to slam Romney is during the primary campaign’

We are in the primary campaign now,


431 posted on 11/18/2010 9:33:05 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And, again, I said that the TP platform is small government, low taxes, and free markets.

If the people OF THE TP have faith in God, that doesn’t change the TP message.


432 posted on 11/18/2010 9:36:42 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

‘The big purge in 2008 was Rudy Giuliani supporters.’

Actually it was spring of 2007, by early 2008 the primaries were over,


433 posted on 11/18/2010 9:43:26 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Democrats hate too much

Take it up with the site owner. He’s stated his desire. It is his physical and intellectual property, to do with as he pleases.


434 posted on 11/19/2010 3:54:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Frantzie; Eaker
Go watch your idiot TV, the great Cowboys and support you sh*ty RINO GOP in Texas that serves up open border DIABLO idiots like Rick Perry, Kay Bailey (gag) and Corn Cob Cornyn. The fricking GOP in Texas is filled with a bunch of LBJ wannabes. They all drink Lone Star Beer like a bunch of big sissies.


435 posted on 11/19/2010 3:58:41 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I was opposed to Brown. Still am.

I and a few others were opposed to Senator elect "republican" Mark Kirk, baby killer, Illinois - still am.

436 posted on 11/19/2010 4:00:56 AM PST by Graybeard58 (November 17th, 1920 - Happy 90th b/day mom.)
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To: murron; dalereed
So in answer to your question, yes, I’ve been here since ‘98 and didn’t know what it means.

It took me a while to figure out what "LOL" means. It's sickeningly overused, unless people are literally laughing out loud every time they use it.

Then we get "roflol", rolling on the floor laughing out loud. If people are literally doing that, they need to be put in the nut house.

There are many others used on here and I don't know what they mean and don't really care to learn to speak in abbreviations.

Use them on my friend and fellow member "DaleReed", and see what he tells you.

437 posted on 11/19/2010 4:20:13 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: onyx
The debates will allow mitt to destroy himself... that is why mcpain won last time... mitt cannot hide from who and what he is... and only leftists like the guy when they see who he is.

LLS

438 posted on 11/19/2010 4:35:01 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Eva
I don’t know what went on here during the last primary that caused the mass banning of posters.

I think the majority of them were sent packing to join "wankers for Rudy", Jim's words, not mine.

Some compared him to Reagan and other real conservatives.

439 posted on 11/19/2010 4:41:25 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: stephenjohnbanker; fieldmarshaldj
Let us not forget current “good” Republicans like Brown, Snowe, and Collins ;-)

You omitted senator elect Mark Kirk, "republican" Illinois, who is more liberal than anyone you mentioned.

440 posted on 11/19/2010 4:48:29 AM PST by Graybeard58
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