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What a bunch of dunces. Just like that TWA flight shot out of the sky over New York, the Gummint puts its foot in its lying mouth yet again. Problem is, this time we can examine the video. The lying imbeciles.

8^D

1 posted on 11/10/2010 12:46:03 PM PST by Gargantua
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Contrails.

Hmmmmmm.

3 posted on 11/10/2010 12:50:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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Gov: “Unicorn rainbow.”


4 posted on 11/10/2010 12:50:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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I hate to be a wet blanket, but where are all the witnesses?

There should have been many pilots and ship captains reporting this surprise large missile launch.

Many of them would certainly have filmed or photographed it.

Many would have reported it to authorities.


5 posted on 11/10/2010 12:50:57 PM PST by ltc8k6
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what about that plane that crashed over jamaica bay in NY not long after 9/11? Didn’t they say it was jet wash that tore the tail off of it or something like that? crazy stuff.


9 posted on 11/10/2010 12:52:45 PM PST by sappy (criminalibs)
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http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/chicago-weather/tom-skilling-blog/archives/CONTRAIL010206.jpg


10 posted on 11/10/2010 12:53:09 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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It’s much, much worse than that.

Consider, we have a plethora of satelites and radar installations designed for this EXACT reason - and no one saw a thing.

There were not F-16’s scrambled, nor was there a High Alert in the Military. Business on Vandenberg continued as normal.

We had one idiot say that this may have been a show of force, to show China that we can launch a missle 35 miles from our shore. As if China hasn’t known of this capabilityf or the past 40 years.

Or ... maybe China did the launch, in a show of force to tell Jughead to get his butt back in-line. That if China wants to play hard-ball; they can get within 30 miles of teh California coast and launch an ICBM and we would not only be unaware of it; we wouldn’t even know about it until a city was a radio-active pile of ash.

When you are dealing with a Libtard like Jughead; the world knows that they can do this, and he will quickly curtsie, bow, lick a boot and appologize on behalf of the charred victims that somehow or another, we had this coming.


11 posted on 11/10/2010 12:54:46 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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They must know most people are thinking the worse: ground to missile set off by terrorist in this country, some crazy/crazies set it off by mistake/on purpose, someone broke into our systems and set it off.....

It either would cause panic, make us question those in authority, or show us what we already know; Obama has lost complete control of everything.

12 posted on 11/10/2010 12:54:54 PM PST by Linda Frances
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The chicoms snuck a silent sub into our waters... just off the coast... and fired an ICBM just to show obama that the technology that clinton gave to them has been mastered.

LLS

13 posted on 11/10/2010 12:54:54 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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A jet’s con-trail would be thinner and smaller the further away as it trailed off toward the horizon.

Ummm. That's not even a little bit true. Have you ever been outside?

14 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:02 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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TWA Flight 800 was not shot out of the sky.

And this was not a missle launch. The reason they were all “clueless” was the same reason the Bush white house sounded so clueless when he was first confronted with the fake story about his national guard service — you can’t know a negative.

So, there was no missle, and the government didn’t know anything about the missle that wasn’t launched, and couldn’t detect any indication of the missle the wasn’t launched, and had no independent verification from radar or satellites about the missle that wasn’t launched.

But in a little while, they were able to figure out that the reported odd occurence wasn’t anything out of the ordinary, it was a flight they knew all about, and which they simply assumed wouldn’t be what people were talking about, since the flight was eastbound from honolulu, and was not a westbound ICBM launched from catalina.


17 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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It’s a common contrail. The object is traveling toward you, not away from you, and since the contrail has a long persistence, it looks like it emanates from the horizon, thus the illusion that it is a missile traveling away from you.

Seems pretty clear to me.


18 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:44 PM PST by Banjoguy (Barack H. Obama, the Democrats and the MSM are at war with the American people.)
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It was a contrail. Here's a contrail from the same part of California on New Year's Eve 2009:

Here's another similar contrail from Michigan:

Many more examples at Contrailscience.com.

19 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:50 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/493104999_b8abb257f7.jpg
More from “Contrails at sunset” image search.


20 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:57 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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And just like TWA 587 which was brought down by a shoe-bomber sitting over a wing.


25 posted on 11/10/2010 12:58:43 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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A jet contrail from an aircraft coming basically straight at you would appear vertical as it approached in the distance. Eventually it would pass overhead and across your position until it left a trail on behind you.

View this still, taken from the video, of the last moments it was visible. The contrail below is breaking up and dissipating as the missile disappears straight above not leaving a contrail crossing overhead.

28 posted on 11/10/2010 1:00:19 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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Now we know for sure that Jack Cashill and Ray Lahr were 1,000,000% Correct in saying the Missile(s) took down TWA 800 and Clintoon covered up the Horrendous Act of War to save his pathetic BASS!


30 posted on 11/10/2010 1:00:49 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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Now we know for sure that Jack Cashill and Ray Lahr were 1,000,000% Correct in saying the Missile(s) took down TWA 800 and Clintoon covered up the Horrendous Act of War to save his pathetic BASS!


31 posted on 11/10/2010 1:01:04 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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Now we know for sure that Jack Cashill and Ray Lahr were 1,000,000% Correct in saying the Missile(s) took down TWA 800 and Clintoon covered up the Horrendous Act of War to save his pathetic BASS!


32 posted on 11/10/2010 1:01:26 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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From Lame Cherry

...the contrail has only one central plume. That means a single engine jet of immense thrust to produce this type of even residual trail. Trails like this take time to bloom out, and as one can easily see the sun is highlighting the focal object moving at angle which no jet flies at.

There are no lights on this object in the twilight which would show up. ...the contrail is under the one, meaning it is lower and can not have formed a contrail and the other is above the sirus cloud formation meaning this plume is gaining altitude, which jets do not do as sirus are high cloud formations.

This is a missile with one very large rocket propelling it as it arcs in sways guided by it's gyroscope on course. This is not Space Shuttle quality or American quality guidance. This is a foreign missile.

What is the problem America is the US warning systems did not detect the mother craft whether it was a submarine or dump craft (something offloaded from a cargo ship and used as a platform to launch the missile later). In the old days, Americans used to pick up crawl tracks off California which were made by Soviets launching underwater tanks doing all sorts of war provoking things America tried to ignore so not to start a nuclear war.

NORAD did not detect this system, and NORAD did not detect the launch, nor have an ability to track it. link

33 posted on 11/10/2010 1:01:26 PM PST by opentalk
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The Pentagon and the Federal government are never gonna tell us what it was. So why do we continue to bitch about it?


34 posted on 11/10/2010 1:02:26 PM PST by Wee-Weed Up
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