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Neanderthals were able to 'develop their own tools'
BBC ^ | September 24, 2010 | Katia Moskvitch

Posted on 09/27/2010 12:18:16 PM PDT by decimon

Neanderthals were keen on innovation and technology and developed tools all on their own, scientists say.

A new study challenges the view that our close relatives could advance only through contact with Homo sapiens.

The team says climate change was partly responsible for forcing Neanderthals to innovate in order to survive.

The research is set to appear in the Journal of Archaeological Method and Theory in December.

"Basically, I am rehabilitating Neanderthals," said Julien Riel-Salvatore, assistant professor of anthropology at the University of Colorado in Denver, who led the seven-year study.

"They were far more resourceful than we have given them credit for." Vanished culture

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: decimon
The team says climate change was partly responsible for forcing Neanderthals to innovate in order to survive.

All wrong. Innovation led to burning of fossil fuels, which led to Climate Change, which led to extinction of Neanderthals, which will kill us all very soon unless we accept govt. control of all economic activities.

21 posted on 09/27/2010 1:13:27 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: decimon
First Ladyius Wookius...Using garding tools
22 posted on 09/27/2010 1:18:12 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: MrB

Was going to debate you on your post; but after doing some research and gaining some enlightenment - I agree with you.

Thank you for motivating me to learn, rather than regurgitate ‘factual’ theories that have been proven false.


23 posted on 09/27/2010 1:20:33 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Wow, you’ve made my day.

The information that I have heard/read about the “Neanderthal” was that they discovered the bones of a very arthritic, and therefore perpetually hunched over, but thoroughly human being, and declared it to be an “intermediate” or a “proto-human”.


24 posted on 09/27/2010 1:40:23 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: decimon
Ug, the fellow standing is saying that inter-dimensional travel would require too many impulse engines.

Lee, the other fellow, replies that he's worked out the number of stones required and has the proof right there in the pebbles before him.

25 posted on 09/27/2010 1:40:58 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: decimon
You mean, they didn't just buy them at Home Depot?

It's amazing what you can learn on the Internets

26 posted on 09/27/2010 2:19:38 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Pardon him...he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe ... are the laws of nature)
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To: decimon

L

27 posted on 09/27/2010 2:22:54 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: MrB

“...but thoroughly human being...” If having a brian 2x modern humans in size, a skull tilted back on the spinal cord (making them something of a soprano), and bone density 2x modern man, then yes they they were identical...


28 posted on 09/27/2010 5:19:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Cave Depot”?


29 posted on 09/27/2010 7:13:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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Thanks decimon. I'm not going to ping, just add. Nice pic of the Neanderfamily.
  • Neanderthals more advanced than previously thought -- For decades scientists believed Neanderthals developed `modern' tools and ornaments solely through contact with Homo sapiens, but new research from the University of Colorado Denver now shows these sturdy ancients could adapt, innovate and evolve technology on their own.


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30 posted on 09/27/2010 7:19:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv
“Cave Depot”?

Beats "Down Lowes."

31 posted on 09/27/2010 7:21:15 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Save big barter at Menoggs.


32 posted on 09/27/2010 8:12:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: decimon
"Is that a flint axe under your loincloth, or are you just happy to see me?"

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33 posted on 09/27/2010 8:15:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: JoeProBono

We’re all happy for Al Gore that he lost weight; but please stop posting nude photos of him on FR.


34 posted on 09/27/2010 8:20:57 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought that we have known that the Neanderthals made tools for over 100 years now. In fact hadn’t the later Homo Erectus types developed a few primitive tools?


35 posted on 09/27/2010 8:29:07 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: frogjerk

NOW, if only we could teach him to hit his head with the club! Ya, I know, he’s just another dumb Neanderthal!


36 posted on 09/27/2010 8:40:05 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Uh-oh, “Homo Erectus” always brings out the puns in people. You know how I dislike puns. ;’) If Homo Erectus had discovered Uranus, well, there’d be a whole subforum for it on FR.

Some sites with tools (Flores) and post holes (showing construction of some kind of permanent structure, in China) dating to about 800K ago have been attributed to Erectus, mainly because that’s who seems to have been the only one around at that time. :’)


37 posted on 09/28/2010 8:17:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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