Posted on 09/02/2010 11:10:21 AM PDT by STARWISE
Edited on 09/02/2010 11:12:11 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
(Excerpt) Read more at wjz.com ...
“If Obama says “Do it,” and someone says “Yes sir,” then the order they pass down is legitimate, since that originating military officer is legitimate. That is where the trail begins, and where one must not question authority when the order in and of itself is reasonable and constitutional.”
I want off this merry-go-round now, I’m feeling motion sickness.
(if Obama gives orders that a sole decision maker, it comes from on,e and only one, authority. How can it be reasonable and Constitutional from an unreasonable and unConstitutional Usurper and cheif?
Those officers that 'ordered' LTC Lakin derive their command authority from the President as commander-in-chief.
Which is why my post began "Maybe it's just a dream,..."
....who cares if they are embarrassed? they were wrong to permit it.....
This is wrong on so many levels. A person is facing criminal charges with possibility of loss of freedom and incarceration., A “judge” ADMITS there is the possibility of Congress being embarrassed, thus there is a possibility the evidence requested would show the Lt COl. is correct and Obama is ineligible.
An embarrassment? What about the embarrassment of having rape victims testify against the accused? What about the right of the people to know? I am embarrased by this poor excuse for a judge.
And to you Obots please read Lt Gen McInerny’s affidavit before you spout off your “legal” knowledge.
Bad news.
Request for records discovery denied.
Argh.
http://wjz.com/wireapnewsmd/Judge.weighs.Army.2.1892398.html
You couldn't tell a grey area from the Pacific Ocean. Claiming that LTC Lakin has "standing" is like pontificating that the weather and field conditions won't be an issue when the Lakers play the Magic this season. There are only two things you can say about a person who makes a remark like that. A. They're kidding. or B. They're so ignorant about the topic that any opinion they have should be dismissed entirely. You aren't kidding. You're just ignorant. And completely unwilling to learn anything. I learn things on Free Republic everyday, you...
We've got en election coming up in sixty days people. If you want to play Walter Mitty, and sit around dreaming grand dreams, and accomplishing nothing, be a Birther. If you want to accomplish something, get out and volunteer and WORK. HARD.
While reading your words, something just R A N G a bell.
Do you recall in the summer of 2008, months before the election, when there was.... I believe it was in a court in Hawaii.... where the DEFENSE attorney stated that the birth certificate of Barry Soebarkah Soetoro Obama Whats-HIZ-Name could not be released because... it would cause severe embarrassment to the Democrat Party.
Anyone else remember that outre position???
MAYBE it was in relation to some suit brought by Andy Martin of Chicago? OR maybe by the friend of Hillary who went to Hawaii? I don't think it was Jerome Corsi, but I could be mistaken.
Seems peculiar that the same word, EMBARRESSMENT is once again highlighted in a court of law.
Who's order/decision is/was it to keep the armed forces in Afghanistan? Who's order/decision is/was it to send additional troops there?
If the President (not a usurper) decides to bring all the troops home from Afghanistan...but the Secretary of Defense (or anyone else under his chain of command) orders the troops to stay....what happens? Who "wins" that order? The POTUS or the SecDef?
In this case, ultimately, the decision to send LTC Lakin originated from Barry's decision to keep and/or send more troops there. Those under "his" chain on command, implemented the specifics. That's essentially the argument of the Defense, and a clear one IMO.
Some folks are excited; they believe that this judge has opened up a large highway straight to the Supreme Court where the appeal will not be dismissed.
Come on, where’s your sense of adventure?
The judge admitted no such thing. The comment about Congress being embarrassed came from an anonymous tweet on Twitter.
Exactly.
what exactly did the “judge” say?
Leaving aside all our prognosticating and argument, can anyone figure out a way to get the text of the judge’s ruling so we can actually know the basis and make a better evaluation of the implications?
And you were told long ago the order to deploy for LTC Lakin to the war zone came from Obama and his administration, and determining that if Obama can legally give orders are relevant to his case. Lakin's movement order to a war zone, which was echoed down to him by his chain-of-command would NOT exist, if it did not come from Obama.
The test: would this order to LTC Lakin to deploy to the Middle East exist if it did not originally come from Obama or his Secretary of Defense?
The answer to this question in a NO.
That's the most positive comment I've heard in many months.
It was the person’s duty who first received the order from the civilian Commander-in-Chief to either challenge it (at great professional loss) or resign. When he passed the order along, it was a direct order to the person under him - not from Obama - but from a superior officer.
Do you really want a military where everyone can question orders, demanding to know the background of everyone up the chain? An order is an order. He didn’t follow it, and he has to face the consequences.
I hope Obama is eventually removed from office, and I would love for it to come from this case, but I also see the immense value of discipline and respect for the chain of command.
I see your postings all the time.
“There is a reason why folks seldom go to Doctors for litigation advice.”
Or to Dentists for that matter.
Yep.
Anyone know how long it will take to get a court transcript?
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