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Judge Weighs Request For Obama School Records (Ltc Lakin hearing today)
AP/WJZ 13 ^ | 9-2-10

Posted on 09/02/2010 11:10:21 AM PDT by STARWISE

Edited on 09/02/2010 11:12:11 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]


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KEYWORDS: birfers; birthers; certifigate; courmartial; judge; lakin; ltclakin; ltgenmcinerney; mcinerney; military; militaryjudge; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin; terrylakin; thomasmcinerney; usurper
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To: STARWISE
Judge in Lakin case denies subpoena for President’s birth certificate as it may cause embarrassment to Congress

Dirty stinking bastard! Not only are congressmen above the law (Rangel, Waters), but now we should not embarrass them!

81 posted on 09/02/2010 12:29:24 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: hoosiermama

Encouraging news, hoosiermama!


82 posted on 09/02/2010 12:30:12 PM PDT by azishot (I can see November from my house!)
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To: conservativegramma

God has to call him, he can’t put himself up there, so we need to keep praying.


83 posted on 09/02/2010 12:30:12 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: PA-RIVER
"This is heading straight to the Supreme Court. We now have a man with injury, and his Judge is denying him access to evidence that could clear him because it would be a political embarrassment. Clearly, this is now an injustice that needs prompt remedy."

That's right (after he's exhausted the military court route). Question then becomes...will SCOTUS continue to evade the issue.

84 posted on 09/02/2010 12:30:27 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: conservativegramma; 1000 silverlings; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...

Pushing this a bit . . .

I’ve long had a hunch . . . not more than, probably . . . but a good strong . . . hunch, speculation . . .

that some of what God has up His sleeves . . . is to catch the enemy unaware in a list of ways . . .

and to bring God’s forces on the scene in unexpected ways. I expect a great chunk of that will be His Angel Armies . . .

He is, Biblically, after all, THE LORD OF HOSTS KJV or GOD OF THE ANGEL ARMIES (MSG VERSION).

However, He also delights to use . . . donkeys and other unexpected mortals . . . through whom to show HIS Glory . . . seems to me we are increasingly ripe for such to be raised up. Vot you tink?


85 posted on 09/02/2010 12:30:55 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

dont think so


86 posted on 09/02/2010 12:31:19 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: azishot; Red Steel; All

Press Release:
CNN Offers Retraction for Racist Statement -

JEFFREY TOOBIN WITHDRAWS VICIOUS STATEMENT HE MADE ABOUT LAKIN SAYS HE NEVER INTENDED THEM TO APPLY TO DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR (with the videos)

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/press-release-cnn-offers-retraction-for-racist-statement.html


87 posted on 09/02/2010 12:32:14 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Smokeyblue; Red Steel

Setting it up for SCOTUS and a R controlled Congress? Why would the judge say all that stuff about impeachment and Congress?


88 posted on 09/02/2010 12:32:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah

I would like to see a transcript of the hearing for the official rationale.


89 posted on 09/02/2010 12:33:36 PM PDT by mrs9x
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To: ml/nj
Lakin's lawyer argued during a pretrial hearing Tuesday at Fort Meade that if Obama isn't a natural-born citizen, any military order given under his administration is unlawful.

Of course, any military order given under his administration includes the order convening LTC Lakin's Court Martial. And an unlawfully convened Court Martial has what jurisdiction? Anyone? Bueller? That's right, NONE. So, if the theory LTC has bet his career on is correct, he is SOL, as the Court Martial he wants to have order discovery, has no power to do so.

There is a reason why folks seldom go to Doctors for litigation advice. The same reason they even more seldom go to lawyers have their appendix removed.

90 posted on 09/02/2010 12:34:25 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: NeverEVERKerry

He doesn’t have an injury due to Obama’s eligibility, but due to his refusal to deploy. That does NOT create ‘standing’ to challenge Obama’s eligibility.

Since Obama is the presumed President, showing he is ineligible today would not change the legality of the orders given to Lakin, and thus Obama’s eligibility is not relevant to the case.

That has been pointed out many times over the last 4-5 months, but birthers don’t want it to be true so they keep ignoring it - just as they screamed a few months ago that the military judge would have no choice but to allow Lakin access to Obama’s birth certificate.


91 posted on 09/02/2010 12:34:41 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: conservativegramma

Don’t lose hope.

If the lamestream media is reporting that 40 percent of Americans don’t believe that The One was born in the USA.... well, then, OBVIOUSLY the real figure is closer to 85 percent, and the other 15 percent probably don’t care about politics and never vote.

There is a GROUNDSWELL.

Even libs & Dems - though not on camera, of course, but in real life, plenty will say that he’s OBVIOUSLY hiding his birth certificate & college loan records because HE KNOWS THAT HE IS INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY.

And he will go down in infamy, because some day the Truth will OUT - it always does.

Don’t worry.


92 posted on 09/02/2010 12:35:29 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: 1000 silverlings

I certainly didn’t approve of her support of McChurian and found it dreadfully mystifying.

However, my friends who live in Wasilla
AK say she’s the real deal.

And, early on . . . I thought/felt about her as an Esther type figure in a trying time.

We shall see.

Until she came up, I didn’t think anyone was going to stand up very soon and be counted on God’s side.

Now, I’m thinking . . . the people who’ve begun to state that Jesus is not coming back for a wimpy, rag-tag, bedraggled, sick, fractured, ineffective Church/Bride . . . that those people have a good point.

Certainly GOD HIMSELF HAS TO CLEAN US ALL UP. HE IS UP TO THAT TASK!


93 posted on 09/02/2010 12:36:35 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: hennie pennie

Let’s see what the exact wording was .. we’re going
on speculation from twitter posts right now.


94 posted on 09/02/2010 12:37:00 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: little jeremiah
Setting it up for SCOTUS and a R controlled Congress? Why would the judge say all that stuff about impeachment and Congress?


The Obama NBC issue is getting the run around between the two branches of government. Senator David Vitter says Obama's eligibility issue should be a matter for the courts, and the courts say this is a matter for Congress. It's all a big circle je...!

95 posted on 09/02/2010 12:38:49 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 1000 silverlings
>>>> ".....He searches in the far reaches of the Kingdom, and he finds a humble shepherd. A faithful man who has quietly been watching out for the flocks. It's always so." <<<<

Or... perhaps, more likely, a humble shephardess...

96 posted on 09/02/2010 12:39:18 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: STARWISE

Critical mass soon...please God.


97 posted on 09/02/2010 12:39:56 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: little jeremiah

You will notice that the turd trolls come on after they quit holding their breaths that the judge could have given discovery.


98 posted on 09/02/2010 12:41:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Mr Rogers
Since Obama is the presumed President, showing he is ineligible today would not change the legality of the orders given to Lakin, and thus Obama’s eligibility is not relevant to the case.

In other words "He won".

We are no longer a nation of laws, if your opinion holds.

99 posted on 09/02/2010 12:47:56 PM PDT by MortMan (Obama's response to the Gulf oil spill: a four-putt.)
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To: Red Steel
Memo to Freepers: Always assume a Birther is wrong about any legal matter they spout off about.

I'll concede Red Steel is 1/2 correct. LTC won't lose on grounds of standing.

Of course, LTC Lakin isn't the Plaintiff/Complainant in his own Court Martial. He is the Defendant. So "standing" won't be an issue. The issue he will lose his quixotic quest for discovery on is relevance. He is charged with missing a movement, said movement being ordered by his direct superior. That is what his Court Martial will be about. LTC Lakin will get discovery about matters related to his refusal to obey an order, but not about whether BO is President.

Flame away Birthers.

100 posted on 09/02/2010 12:48:35 PM PDT by Pilsner
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