Posted on 07/08/2010 4:07:23 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
This brief for stay was forwared to Hon. Assocate Justice of the Supreme Court Clarence Thomas
APPLICATION FOR EMERGENCY STAY AND/OR INJUNCTION AS TO THE sanctions Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
(Excerpt) Read more at scribd.com ...
ML/NJ
How is YOUR unnatural citizen candidate, Mexican Mitt Romney, doing?”
Why thank you. If I have to be called one of these silly -BOT names, I guess being a RomneyBOT is a step up from being called an ObamaBOT. Of course, I have to admit I don't really keep up with the various grades of BOT-dom, but thanks anyway.
The problem is that you are convinced Obama is a usurper without any actual evidence to back that assertion up. You have urban legends, innuendo, and a bunch of wild “what ifs”. For very good reasons having to do with protecting individual freedom and liberty, courts don’t authorize fishing expeditions on that kind of stuff even if you had standing. You will never get any Court properly functioning under the Constitution to authorize discovery against anyone just because you think they might have done something wrong. You need credible evidence and a cogent argument that ties it all together. One of the big problems with Orly is that she simply rants about a bunch of noncredible evidence amid hyperbolic accusations without ever bothering to get down to meaningful citations of case law that would constitute a legal argument. And she can’t even be bothered to follow basic rules of submittal. Put simply, her briefs are gibberish to a court, and her behavior is outlandish..
Actually there is some evidence. Obama himself claims his father is a man who was never a citizen of the United States. He supposedly wrote a book about this.
ML/NJ
You sure are an interesting "Old Conservative." I've been doing a little research. In all of the posts that show up today for you on the first page of your recent posts (I think it's 100 posts but I'm not sure.) only TWO (2 !!) weren't in some way related to the eligibility issue and those two had to do with Joran van der Sloot!
Joran van der Sloot! There's an issue high on the list of Freedom Loving FReepers! Nothing from you about Obama, about Pelosi, about the economy, about Rush, the McDonald Gun decision, or the oil spill. Just the birth certificate! And what do you say? That none of us has a right to ask! I think maybe you should take your act someplace else.
ML/NJ
You sure are an interesting “Old Conservative.” I've been doing a little research. In all of the posts that show up today for you on the first page of your recent posts (I think it's 100 posts but I'm not sure.) only TWO (2 !!)”
Don't know about the last hundred, but I've certainly posted on more topics than that. I've also posted Russell Kirk's ten conservative principles, which are certainly appropriate for a tired old conservative:
http://www.kirkcenter.org/kirk/ten-principles.html
If you can't be bothered to look it up, here they are:
“First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent...
Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity. It is old custom that enables people to live together peaceably; the destroyers of custom demolish more than they know or desire...
Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription. Conservatives sense that modern people are dwarfs on the shoulders of giants, able to see farther than their ancestors only because of the great stature of those who have preceded us in time...
Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence. Burke agrees with Plato that in the statesman, prudence is chief among virtues...
Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety. They feel affection for the proliferating intricacy of long-established social institutions and modes of life, as distinguished from the narrowing uniformity and deadening egalitarianism of radical systems...
Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability. Human nature suffers irremediably from certain grave faults, the conservatives know. Man being imperfect, no perfect social order ever can be created...
Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked. Separate property from private possession, and Leviathan becomes master of all...
Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism. Although Americans have been attached strongly to privacy and private rights, they also have been a people conspicuous for a successful spirit of community...
Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions. Politically speaking, power is the ability to do as one likes, regardless of the wills of one’s fellows. A state in which an individual or a small group are able to dominate the wills of their fellows without check is a despotism, whether it is called monarchical or aristocratic or democratic...
Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society. The conservative is not opposed to social improvement, although he doubts whether there is any such force as a mystical Progress, with a Roman P, at work in the world...”
I happen to think that birtherism makes a mockery of those principles. Ultimately, it has as little respect for them as it does the real Constitution and the law that flows form it. Having temper tantrums over the fact that we lost an election, to the point where one enters an alternate universe constructed of absurdly fallacious beliefs as Orly has done, is hardly conservative.
Judge Thomas does seem like the kind of guy who enjoys a good laugh.
t_o_c is a SlootBot.
Gee. You don't know? You could have just followed my link!
And guess what! Here's what Google has to say now about ALL your FR posts that mention this guy Kirk:
Results for: kirk "by tired_old_conservative" site:freerepublic.com(But it will probably change by tomorrow to catch this most recent post of yours.)Your search - kirk "by tired_old_conservative" site:freerepublic.com - did not match any documents.
See, the problem for you FRaudsters is that your aren't nearly so clever as you think.
ML/NJ
Unfortunately all the labels come from various and sundry boob-BOTs.
LEAVE ORLY ALONE!
None of you have the testicular fortitude she has in her toenail.
She's a self-aggrandizing clown. With the intellect of your average toenail.
And for the record, one may hate Obama just fine while thinking Taitz is a clown.
I don't think she completed clown school.
Show The Clown Certificate!
The hell you say!
And STAY OFF MY THREAD!
It's always that the judges have been bought off or intimidated, or that everyone, including significant parts of the military, are corrupt, or that the next stupid case finally has the magic key, or that anyone who disagrees is an Obot. No matter how many cases and approaches fail without ever coming within sniffing distance of a snowball's chance in heck, it's always someone else’s fault. The one thing you will never consider is that this whole birther thing is a castle built on sinking sand, which it is. You have my pity, and I hope you will be able to reconcile yourself to its inevitable total and complete failure.
I've said repeatedly that if one wants to do something rational, one should try and pass laws at the state level for how a candidate's place on the ballot is certified. I don't think that will ultimately yield the result the birthers want, because I think the evidence is pretty clear that Obama was born in Hawaii and no court is ever going to back the two-citizen parent thing, but give it a shot. I have not, and will not, mock anyone trying to do that, as it comports with our legal system and is a sane thing to do.
It would actually be a conservative thing to do. Backing Orly's insane rants is not.
That’s gonna leave a mark...;’)
Substantively, that is correct. But this is by far the best thing I've ever seen filed over her signature. Don't get me wrong - she's not getting an emergency stay. But she won't be sanctioned for this filing, which is a big step up.
Previously I've said that Orly wasn't as good as the worst 'writ writer' in your average cell block. This is could be the product of the best writ writer in some cell blocks. I wonder if someone wrote it for her, or if perhaps she got her medication balanced out.
It certainly does. What Birthers can never grasp is that the Constitution also gives Congress both the sole power to count the votes of the electors, and decide who was elected President, and to remove the President from office. Petition away.
It is a step up in basic formatting coherence. Now if she could just get that whole “legal argument” thing down.
And you, of course, are able to judge everyone's thinking ability. I am "deeply irrational." I can assure you that you didn't get a higher score than I did on that SAT test for "analytical reasoning" we all used to take. You think you know what I, or we, all want; and so it must be so.
But really, you don't have a clue. I just want a legal resolution to the issue. I have written to the one Supreme Court Justice whose homes I have visited on a number of occasions, that I thought they should take a case and rule that since Obama had at least one parent who was a US citizen that he was a natural born citizen under the meaning of the Constitution.
It's not about Obama. It's about the rule of law in this country.
ML/NJ
How about the part where she threatens the Supreme Court that they will all be guilty of a felony if they don't take her case?
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