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Was Apple right? Adobe Flash crashes twice during mobile demo
ZDNet ^

Posted on 05/10/2010 8:41:04 PM PDT by Gomez

Nothing sucks more than being on stage in front of a bunch of techies and having your demo crash on you twice. Actually, the only way that sucks more is if you’re Adobe and it’s Flash that’s crashing on a mobile device, forcing folks to wonder if Steve Jobs was right about the stability of Flash.

This incident happened last week at FlashCamp Seattle, according to a blog post by Jeff Croft, a Seattle developer who also moderated a panel at the event.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; flashtranshware; ilovebillgates; ipad; ipod; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; macintosh; microsoftfanboys; stevejobs
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To: Swordmaker

He could have been using Adobe software on the Mac, as he claims to have used it in a ‘production environment’. The last two CS releases from Adobe have been quite terrible about crashing.


21 posted on 05/11/2010 3:37:34 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Talisker
This is an Apple suckup piece. The crash occurred on admittedly buggy, non-Apple beta software hooked to hulu which may have been at fault.

Absolutely. Happens all the time at tech demos. They generally are demonstrating the bleeding edge of tech, so sometimes you'll see the blood.

I always love the shots of Bill Gates standing on a podium in front of a BSOD.



22 posted on 05/11/2010 4:24:51 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Sorry your experience has been such.

For my 3 yr old Macbook it’s crashed once the whole time I had it & that was most likely my error.

My 6 month old mac mini has yet to crash.

I run pro-sound apps on both machines. It just works perfectly, every time.

Peace :)


23 posted on 05/11/2010 4:42:30 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: gunsequalfreedom
gunsequalfreedom
Since Jan 25, 2010

Welcome Troll

24 posted on 05/11/2010 4:57:12 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: dalight

One of the main reasons to forgo Flash on mobile devices is the way it eats CPU cycles (and power). It is one thing to push your CPU to 100% on a desktop and pay a few cents more on your power bill. It is another to have it suck up your battery and leave your mobile device dead in two hours instead of the expected 12...


25 posted on 05/11/2010 5:19:20 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: gunsequalfreedom; Swordmaker
Your obvious bias is showing (and diminishing your opinion's value here):

Ryan Stewart was demoing Flash Player 10.1 on a Nexus One

Since when did Apple start making the Nexus One? OH - wait - that device is Google's own hardware... you know - that much acclaimed (by Windoze and Google Spyware Fanboyz) OPEN SOURCE platform...

It blows me away how we here on FR argue, spit, and vent about how liberals defame conservatives and this nation - with their vitriol and extreme bias and lies. Then "we" tolerate the same kind of attitude towards a single manufacture - Apple.

As has been pointed out on FR by many users - Anti-Apple folks tend to post lies, incorrect data, and spew hate and vitriol like posters on DU on every even remotely Apple-related thread like clockwork. Almost all with (though your post is an exception in this case) the term "fanboyz/fanboys/fanboiz/and more variations on a spelling). Then many accuse Apple users of being the ones hateful - yet cannot point to a single truly hate-filled anti-Windows post by an Apple user.

I just don't buy your statement that you have never worked on a computer that crashes more than an Apple. I have seen a grand total of 10 or 11 crashes on Apple hardware in my 16 years of using Apple computers. Some were due to hard drive failure (not made by Apple), the rest were the result of software that created conflicts (back in the old pre OSX days). NONE were because of virus or trojan infections.

Have I seen a crash-prone Apple computer - yes. It was damaged from a fall off an end table (was a Powerbook). Motherboard was cracked where the power adapter plugged in. The thing would start to boot and hard crash.

How much time have you spent using a Macintosh? How many different machines? What time frame? What machines? What OS? Usually when I read or hear such stories - the experience is limited to one machine - and quite often back in the System 8 days or before.

26 posted on 05/11/2010 7:57:32 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
>> That's an application crash, not a system crash.

> Alright, so I'm not an expert on the types of crashes that Apple computers are plauged with. Thanks for clarifying that.

Oh for goodness sake, please learn something about computers, and stop mouthing off until you do. All computers are the same in that regard, Windows, Mac, Linux, whatever.

And Welcome to FreeRepublic, Newbie Troll. Hang around for a while (quietly, please) and you'll learn quite a bit here.

27 posted on 05/11/2010 8:39:56 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I know as much about the difference between a mac and a pc as anyone needs to.

You can deny that macs are not prone to the spinning beachball of death all you want but that won’t change the fact that mac users everywhere are at this very moment starting at that annoying thing.

As for my being a newbie, you don’t know as much as you think you do. As for my being a troll, when you throw out that smear you ought to at least have your definition of it correct.

Finally, it is laughable how fiercly mac users will defend the indefensible on nothing more than pure emotion. Me thinks misery loves company and wants the rest of the world to join them in using those wretched crash prone machines.


28 posted on 05/11/2010 10:20:55 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: TheBattman; guns_forfreedom
As has been pointed out on FR by many users - Anti-Apple folks tend to post lies, incorrect data, and spew hate and vitriol like posters on DU on every even remotely Apple-related thread like clockwork. Almost all with (though your post is an exception in this case) the term "fanboyz/fanboys/fanboiz/and more variations on a spelling). Then many accuse Apple users of being the ones hateful - yet cannot point to a single truly hate-filled anti-Windows post by an Apple user.

If you cared to, you could keep that in your scrapbook and post it on all Apple related threads, be they about Desktop, MacBook, iPhone, iPod, iPad, OSX or whatever. In addition, all new Apple products are met with dire predictions that "this time" Apple has stepped it and missed the mark. "This time" it will be an iFail. Then when the product is a record-breaking success they skulk off and wait to repeat themselves when Apple introduces something else.

Like you, I can't understand the emotional involvement some people attach to attacking Apple. Those attacks often include complaints about price and snarky remarks that they have just built a computer for themselves that runs twice as fast as a Mac, has twice the hard drive and RAM, runs open source for free, and they did it all for fourteen cents.

This hints that perhaps they would rather have a Mac but can't see the value no matter how often cost-to-own is explained and verified.

Some people would rather buy a used car and spend all their time and money tinkering with it, souping up this that and the other, than buy a new car and just get in it and drive it when and where they want. That is the way I see Mac users, as new car buyers. They are only interested in performance and reliability and from that comes the phrase "They just work!"

Different strokes for different folks but, as you say, us Mac users don't care what the others do and we never insult them, but they can't seem to resist the urge to call us liberal gay fanboyz while feeling superior about themselves. These threads seem to draw them like moths to a flame.

29 posted on 05/11/2010 10:26:31 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
These threads seem to draw them like moths to a flame.

It's a sickness...

30 posted on 05/11/2010 10:41:43 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
I have never worked on a computer that crashes more than an Apple.

Then I guess you have never worked on a computer other than Apple. I have 16 years in academic/lab environments using both PC and Mac and the PC crashes far outnumber the Mac crashes in both frequency and severity, especially after the introduction of OSX.
31 posted on 05/11/2010 10:45:27 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: TheBattman
I already posted how much I have used an Apple/Mac. It was for 2 years, 5 days a week, 8 to 10 hours a day in a production environment. OS10 I beleive was the operating system with machines that were brand new at the time. It was not just one station I worked at, but several. The machine did not drop on the floor. Nobody spilled coffee on it.

When in this conversation should I mention this marvel of ergonomic design?

What is it with mac and round?


32 posted on 05/11/2010 10:46:30 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Gomez

Everybody knows Steve was right about that. Flash has a long history of being a crash happy resource hog. Of course that’s not really why he’s banning Flash, iPhone is closed to all 3rd party platforms including Java. But at least the criticism of Flash’s stability was accurate.


33 posted on 05/11/2010 10:48:46 AM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Crusher138
One of the main reasons to forgo Flash on mobile devices is the way it eats CPU cycles (and power). It is one thing to push your CPU to 100% on a desktop and pay a few cents more on your power bill. It is another to have it suck up your battery and leave your mobile device dead in two hours instead of the expected 12...

Well that too, on top of not working on such devices, if it did, it would yack.

34 posted on 05/11/2010 10:55:44 AM PDT by dalight
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Most of your response was laughable. So I laughed, thanks for that. The rest you are welcome to roll up and smoke.

> You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I know as much about the difference between a mac and a pc as anyone needs to.

Which is, obviously, very little. I've been designing, building, and programming computers since the early 70's, which I suspect was before you were born. I use them all, and I know precisely what I'm talking about, thank you.

This thread is about Adobe software crashing on a Nexus One mobile Phone platform running Google's AndroidOS. It has nothing to do with Macs or spinning beachballs. You introduced that topic, for the sole purpose of being a troll.

Now please go find some other thread to crap on, and grow up. You're boring. Good bye.

35 posted on 05/11/2010 10:57:33 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Well, as long as we're bringing up ancient history, let's look at one of Microsoft's hits.

36 posted on 05/11/2010 10:59:43 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: dayglored
Which is, obviously, very little. I've been designing, building, and programming computers ...

Well, that explains your love of macs, you like a challenge.

That final ribbing aside, we've run the course on this Ford / Chevy style debate. I'm sure your Mac runs fine and you are happy with it. I personally don't see the need for one or that that it does anything so much better that I should own one.

The Ipad and Iphone are undeniably great advancements and something I definately am considering purchasing.

Sorry for dumping on the discussion so much. I should have known better from past discussions I've had on mac threads. All the best to you.

37 posted on 05/11/2010 11:45:26 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Richard Kimball
You could have referenced a more recent blunder, Windows Vista. You could also have mentioned Windows propensity for delivering product with everything “turned on” and making the system much less secure out of the box (aka Steve Gibson's much heralded complaint). In the ad you provided, Microsoft was almost right about its claim "software everyone will use".
38 posted on 05/11/2010 11:50:46 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: gunsequalfreedom
You're not really an experienced computer user, are you? You are coming off as being very aggressively ignorant
39 posted on 05/11/2010 11:57:22 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: TheBattman

Yes. OS7, 8, and 9, would occasionally lockup on me, it always an ap crash though. Sometimes pushing Premiere or Photoshop too hard. Macromedia aps would crap out just because they like to.

SInce OSX, I can count maybe 3 or 4.


40 posted on 05/11/2010 12:06:59 PM PDT by moehoward
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