I have never worked on a computer that crashes more than an Apple.
Posted on 05/10/2010 8:41:04 PM PDT by Gomez
Nothing sucks more than being on stage in front of a bunch of techies and having your demo crash on you twice. Actually, the only way that sucks more is if you’re Adobe and it’s Flash that’s crashing on a mobile device, forcing folks to wonder if Steve Jobs was right about the stability of Flash.
This incident happened last week at FlashCamp Seattle, according to a blog post by Jeff Croft, a Seattle developer who also moderated a panel at the event.
(Excerpt) Read more at zdnet.com ...
Bill Gates and Microsoft would be amused.
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Software platforms are only as good as the developers who write for them.
This is an Apple suckup piece. The crash occurred on admittedly buggy, non-Apple beta software hooked to hulu which may have been at fault.
Yet “Steve Jobs may be right about Flash.”
LOL, fanboys never quit.
The pansy-boys that now inhabit the software industry would probably sue for damages for demanding this in the US, or have their house-servant do it for them if they're based in India.
Folks who know flash know why Apple has no time for flash on mobile devices. There are a number of threads here covering the subject but it comes down to the fact that Flash expects a mouse and mobile devices don't have one. End of story.
It has nothing to do with crashes and everything to do with compatibility of thousands of apps waiting for a mouse over which will never ever happen.
Anyway, no worries. This issue will resolve itself.
I have never worked on a computer that crashes more than an Apple.
The Historic Windows98 demo crash
Nothing is completely immune to crashing. My BSD Unix and Mac systems are more robust than my Windows and Linux systems, but none of them are 100% immune.
That's an application crash, not a system crash. As long as you can do a Force-Quit, the system is still fine. Applications crash much more often than the entire system.
None of my Macs have had a true system crash in many years of daily operation. They've done it, but it's been years.
The same is true of my Win7 systems. Applications hang and screw up, but as long as you can use Task Manager and shut down the errant app, so what? Blame the app, not the computer.
> I have never worked on a computer that crashes more than an Apple.
Then you've got some really 3-sigma-out experiences. I've worked with all these systems for decades, and OS-X is the most stable of the bunch, except for plain text-mode BSD Unix.
Now, pre-OS-X Apples, that's entirely different. Mac OS prior to OS-X was a piece of crap, stability-wise. Of course, Win95/98/Me was even worse, but those were the 90's...
So why in God's name was Adobe demoing it???
> ... hooked to hulu which may have been at fault.
Actually, no. It was hooked to Eco Zoo, which crashed twice. When asked to try Hulu, the presenter answered, "Hulu doesn't work", indicating that they already tried it and it failed. That may be Hulu's fault, I don't know. The Eco Zoo site apparently worked with a later version of the beta Flash in which some bugs were fixed.
So,... back to.... why did Adobe think it was a good idea to demo this piece of crap in front of people? It LOST them points overall.
I don't know how to say this without sounding harsh, but that comment says much more about your limited experience than it says about Apple.
Don't worry about sounding harsh - or wrong. I've had plenty of go-arounds with Apple fans.
As for my experience with Apple, I worked on them for two years every day 8 to 10 hours a day in a production environment. That was two years ago but I think recent enough experience. Apples crash. When they do, you lose your work.
Not since the early days of using PC's have I had to so routinely save my work while work is in progress so it would not be lost.
I probably should have not posted on this thread as I really do not have a desire to dig into the Apple / PC debate - again and again and again.
You have your Apple. I have my PC. If it works for you (you having an Apple) it works for me. Guess we still don't know, however, why Job's Apple crashed.
May your computing experience be free of beachballs.
Alright, so I'm not an expert on the types of crashes that Apple computers are plauged with. Thanks for clarifying that.
You have now entered the religion zone. Be prepared to be savaged by Mac zealots. "The OS never crashes - it is totally stable and we haven't rebooted for 3 years" and all that fantasy.
Been there before and I have no doubt I will regret it.
Did learn something interesting though... It is only considered a crash with an Apple if the entire system goes down, not just a application that freezes up and causes you to lose your work.
Do you think their zeolotry could be caused by watching that spinning beachball for three years while waiting for the application to start working again.
You apparently are not working with modern Macs. The software you were working certainly was not configured correctly. What in the heck were you doing??? Your experience is so FAR OUTSIDE of the professional experience I have had that it is either false, your IT department is totally incompetent, or you are using antique software that lacks autoback-up.
It's not fantasy if what we are telling you we have actually experienced. If you chose to disbelieve us, that is YOUR problem, not ours.
By the way, Guns, you might want to TRY reading the article... it was NOT an Apple computer that is being complained about crashing... it was a Nexus One mobile Phone platform running Google's AndroidOS. . . so your snarky comment missed the target completely.
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