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Astronomy Picture of the Day
NASA ^ | 1/31/10 | Yale University, B. E. Schaefer (LSU)

Posted on 01/31/2010 5:41:54 AM PST by sig226


The Mysterious Voynich Manuscript
Credit:
Yale University ; Digital Copyright: B. E. Schaefer (LSU)

Explanation: The ancient text has no known title, no known author, and is written in no known language: what does it say and why does it have many astronomy illustrations? The mysterious book was once bought by an emperor, forgotten on a library shelf, sold for thousands of dollars, and later donated to Yale. Possibly written in the 15th century, the over 200-page volume is known most recently as the Voynich Manuscript, after its (re-)discoverer in 1912. Pictured above is an illustration from the book that appears to be somehow related to the Sun. The book labels some patches of the sky with unfamiliar constellations. The inability of modern historians of astronomy to understand the origins of these constellations is perhaps dwarfed by the inability of modern code-breakers to understand the book's text. Can the eclectic brain trust of APOD readers make any progress? If you think you can provide any insight, instead of sending us email please participate in a fresh online discussion. The book itself remains in Yale's rare book collection under catalog number "MS 408."


TOPICS: Astronomy Picture of the Day
KEYWORDS: apod; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; voynich; voynichmanuscript
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To: sig226
Some of the constellations pictured above are not those visable from Earth. I strongly suggest that astonomers put the data about these star formations into a computer, which would visualize what the night sky would look like from fresh points of reference.

I think it's highly probable that we are looking at a star chart from another 'nearby' world. Only now, with the use of computers is it possible to build star charts of the night sky visable from nearby worlds. Please note that some constellations on the manuscript are familiar to astrononmers and other formations appear to be unique. This supports the notion that we are dealing with 'nearby planet's; Mars, planets about Alpha Canturi?

Seasoned astronomers probably already know which stars and 'constellations' are made up of 'nearby' stars and which represent distorted, or absent constellations.

I'm confident this theory could be accepted or dismissed after a few minutes of thoughtful consideration. Computer simulations might also help us reach the conclusion that this is a one of a kind manuscript, or a complete fraud and fabrication. Similar to 'the Devil's Bible', another medival book that contains mysterious incantations, maps and sky charts. Maybe the V. Manuscript is just another in a series of bogus quasi-biblical books drafted by over imaginative monks during the Middle Ages? It's really fascinating to speculate whether the V. manuscript features the observations made by a human astronomer who might have been abducted by ancient aliens and transported to another world?

21 posted on 01/31/2010 6:55:57 AM PST by STD ( Dear Leader, No Thanks We Don't Want to Share Your Political Success)
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To: sig226

Cool!


22 posted on 01/31/2010 6:59:32 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: hoosier hick

Then it’s settled!


23 posted on 01/31/2010 7:00:33 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other." George Bush)
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To: sig226

it’s helen thomas’ grocery list.


24 posted on 01/31/2010 8:00:36 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: sig226

The language is that of Mordor, which I will not utter hear. But in the common tonuge it reads “Me Chinese, me play joke. Me go pee-pee in your coke”.


25 posted on 01/31/2010 8:26:15 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: sig226

Here’s a link to pictures from the book. Fascinating. http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/SetsSearchExecXC.asp?srchtype=ITEM


26 posted on 01/31/2010 9:28:26 AM PST by mirkwood
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To: left that other site
I think Bebop scales are musically interesting. I find them interesting because they are not Diatonic and to my own listening preference, music played on the DOWNBEAT has more ear candy. In a Diatonic scale, the rhythms used with a metronome when playing eight eighth notes in 4/4 time doesn't match up because, a major or minor scale only has seven notes. The addition of a "8th" note (actually its a passing tone) in a Bebop scale, allows the rhythms to match up or align with the notes in 4/4 time.

For example, playing a C Mixolydian (C major with an added Bb) over a C9 chord in 4/4, rhythmically matches a metronome on the DOWNBEAT (2 and 4). A C major Bebop scale would add a G# as the eighth note. With a metronome, the rhythms match up with the DOWNBEAT. Its just personal preference. YMMV

27 posted on 01/31/2010 2:57:54 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: pyx

Yes Indeed! The BeBop Scales are Very Cool! I also love the various Modes as well.

The minor second that begins the Phrygian and Locrian Modes is also intriguing.

Hungarian Scales and Gypsy Scales sometimes feature that.

BTW, if anyone questions what relationship music bears to ASTRONOMY, it’s all PHYSICS! LOL


28 posted on 01/31/2010 3:03:19 PM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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Thanks sig226! It's been over a year I think since we had a topic about the VM.

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29 posted on 01/31/2010 4:03:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: sig226

It is clearly a phrophacy of the Big O, the One. The language is archaic eubonics in the swaliah text.


30 posted on 01/31/2010 4:09:50 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: mirkwood

Link doesn’t work.


31 posted on 01/31/2010 4:33:19 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: SunkenCiv

Fascinating stuff! Thanks for the ping! :)


32 posted on 01/31/2010 4:50:50 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: thefactor
Oh great...now you've gone and done it.

Stoopid rules!
33 posted on 01/31/2010 6:10:27 PM PST by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cool!


34 posted on 01/31/2010 6:17:31 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: sig226

It must be the transcript for Obama’s Healthcare Plan.


35 posted on 01/31/2010 6:21:36 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: LibertyRocks

My pleasure. :’)


36 posted on 01/31/2010 6:23:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: sig226

37 posted on 01/31/2010 7:01:42 PM PST by pabianice
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To: sig226; SunkenCiv
Did someone call for a translator?


38 posted on 02/01/2010 1:28:58 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Thanks sig226. Note: this was posted January 31, 2010.

39 posted on 01/26/2014 6:43:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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