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Has Michael Vick Been Saved? God Dogs & Tony Dungy
cbs47 ^ | 8-26-09 | cakid1

Posted on 08/26/2009 2:02:15 PM PDT by cakid1

In Texas this week former Colts NFL coach Tony Dungy talked about faith and Michael Vick's return to the NFL.

Dungy who visited Vick while he was in prison on the dog fighting conviction asked Vick:

"I asked Michael, 'Where was the Lord in all of this?' because I wanted to know about his personal faith in Jesus."


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Sports
KEYWORDS: coach; faith; michaelvick; nfl; tonydungy
Tony Dungy is a good man.
1 posted on 08/26/2009 2:02:15 PM PDT by cakid1
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To: cakid1

One of my county’s sources of pride.


2 posted on 08/26/2009 2:03:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cakid1

what was the deal with Dungy recently scolding Vick for drinking in public? Just wondering.


3 posted on 08/26/2009 2:06:19 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: cakid1

Ugh. No. It’s not even about the dogs. It’s about the Vicks. They are t-r-a-s-h-y. Also t-r-o-u-b-l-e. (Sorry to VT fans.)

I think Tony D has done a beautiful paint job on a sinking ship.


4 posted on 08/26/2009 2:06:37 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: cakid1
who knows, who cares. but I think that his new friends will be shaking him down big time.

Dungy? Anybody who can get the Buccaneers fit to play football is worthy of a nod.

5 posted on 08/26/2009 2:06:47 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the revolution has happened; the revolution will happen; the revolution is happening.)
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To: cakid1

A person like Vicks is ‘damaged goods’.

A person who gets off on torturing, maiming and killing defenseless animals is not a person who get’s ‘cured’ this is a sick perversion that is a core part of who they are. This person reveled in his sadism, he had no shame, no regret and no remorse. This was not some hidden embarassment that he kept from view, this was a ‘showplace’ and a place of personal pride for this animal. He’s only regret is that he got caught.

Perhaps this team needs to recruit some rapists, child molesters and other degenerates - as long as they can run, kick and catch a football - because that tells me that the only thing this coach cares about is money.

What ever happened to ‘integrity’ and ‘being proud of your team’. If I were on the team, I would be looking to leave; you see, I am careful with whom I associate myself with. The people I associate with define ‘who I am’ and I have too much pride to associate myself with a degenerate sadist.


6 posted on 08/26/2009 2:13:07 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: cakid1
Michael Vick Pictures, Images and Photos

Gee, do you think he was looking for Jesus when he went to a strip club as soon as he was released?

7 posted on 08/26/2009 2:16:10 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Hodar
"A person like Vicks is ‘damaged goods’."

In some way, shape or form, we are all 'damaged goods'; some of us more than others.

I've always been a dog lover, and have never been a Vick or Eagles fan, but the guy served the sentence that our government imposed on him. I hope his contrition is sincere and would like to think he uses his celebrity (or infamy, if you will) to talk to youth and his peers about the perils and idiocy of the gangsta' thug lifestyle. Will he? I have no way of knowing. I do know however, that without the forgiveness of our fellow man for past transgressions, we'd all be pariahs.

8 posted on 08/26/2009 2:22:58 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: cakid1

Vick did his time, yada yada. Good, during that time he couldn’t kill anymore dogs. That doesn’t mean I have to forgive him and I’m sure the dogs don’t feel any more kindly toward him just because he did some very short time. He’s evil. He’s a disgusting monster. If this is what football fans hold up as their hero, I want no more of the game. The game holds up thugs, meth heads, rapists, etc. as heroes. No thanks.


9 posted on 08/26/2009 2:31:38 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Joe 6-pack

While I agree with the forgiveness concept, I do not subscribe to the ‘forget’ part.

He has served his time, however having seen what this man chose to do with his resources; I am of the opinion that he should not have those resources again.

He has his freedom, he has his life.

If he were a child molester, he would be barred from being around children. If he were a MD who molested his patients, he would be barred from paracticing medicine. If he were a cop caught in a corruption bust; he would be barred from working in law enforcement. If he were a lawyer caught in graft, he’s lose his license to practice law.

Vicks made more money than most of these professions pay - I resent him being allowed to return to a profession that enables him to resume the lifestyle that glorifies the mutilation, torture and painful death of innocent creatures, be they dogs, chickens, cattle or sheep.

Find him a broom, and let him earn a living like any other pervert who has served his time. There are too many other worthy athletes that deserve the opportuntity that was afforded Vicks.


10 posted on 08/26/2009 2:32:00 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: cakid1

I think the headline needs a comma between “God” and “dog.”


11 posted on 08/26/2009 2:33:26 PM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: Hodar
If he were a child molester, he would be barred from being around children. If he were a MD who molested his patients, he would be barred from paracticing medicine. If he were a cop caught in a corruption bust; he would be barred from working in law enforcement. If he were a lawyer caught in graft, he’s lose his license to practice law.

And if people in any of those professions had been caught abusing animals, they'd be allowed to continue practicing their professions after they did their time. Vick's crime had nothing to do with football - most of the people involved in dog-fighting rings aren't employees of the NFL or it's franchises.
12 posted on 08/26/2009 2:43:55 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: subterfuge

Dungy... said Vick has the possibility to becoming a Christian role model.

But Vick faces plenty of scrutiny, such as a recent report of him having a drink of vodka and pineapple juice at a Philadelphia airport restaurant.

“You can’t do that,” Dungy was quoted by Sports Illustrated as telling Vick publicly after the incident.

“I think Michael will be a testimony to young people and have some good things to say them,” Dungy told Baptist Press.


13 posted on 08/26/2009 2:44:37 PM PDT by cakid1
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To: Hodar
You make valid arguments, and put me in the unsavory position where I risk being misidentified as an outspoken Vick apologist, which I'm not. I'm not urging that Vick's crimes be swept under the carpet. To the contrary, I sincerely hope, and if he sought my advice, I would counsel him to constantly remind people of the lifestyle he found himself indulging in, and why it's wrong and why others should not go down that path. He has a profound opportunity to be a positive influence on kids (and adults) and I hope he uses it to its fullest.

I understand your reasoning behind a police officer or doctor not being returned to their professions; however, police are entrusted as public servants, and physicians and other practitioners of the healing arts are sanctioned and licensed by public boards...not so NFL players, and if a business owner wishes to risk returning Vick to employment, I'd argue that's their perogative.

Suppose hypothetically, Vick were forced into a janitorial position...and then through hard work and diligence, eventually became the CEO of a sanitation company with a salary on par with what he makes in the NFL...would you still begrudge him his salary? If so, you should ask yourself why...

Again, I don't want to sound like a Vick defender...and if you look back at my posts when the dogfighting story broke, I doubt there were many more harsh in their condemnation than I. Truth be told, I think he should probably still be locked up, but that's not the case, and he served a sentence imposed by our system of jurisprudence. For better or worse, he's served his time and found an employer willing to hire him. He has an opportunity for personal redemption and it's up to him, not you or I, to make or break it.

14 posted on 08/26/2009 2:50:43 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Hodar

Let’s at least give him a second chance, he has served more time and lost more than a lot of murderers.
I am big time animal lover, really big and I am for giving him a second chance.


15 posted on 08/26/2009 3:20:46 PM PDT by mel
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To: Hodar
You wrote: "Perhaps this team needs to recruit some rapists, child molesters and other degenerates - as long as they can run, kick and catch a football ..."

Why do you think they call it the National Felons League?

16 posted on 08/26/2009 3:24:50 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Hodar

There are too many other worthy athletes that deserve the opportuntity that was afforded Vicks.

&&&

How can anyone cheer for this jerk?


17 posted on 08/26/2009 3:36:38 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: cakid1

Good people who have a deep faith like Dungy are easy to con

They so want to belief the best in people and have them accept Jesus that when people say they do they are more than willing to believe them


18 posted on 08/26/2009 3:52:05 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: cakid1
he served his time under the law... now let that POS go dig a ditch somewhere!!!

he has a right to work, but NOWHERE is it a law he gets to play football ever again.

just exactly what, does it actually take to get kicked out the nfl these days?

crawling over their dying mother to rape their prepubescent sister??

WHAT???

19 posted on 08/26/2009 4:30:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: cakid1

Thanks.


20 posted on 08/27/2009 6:17:14 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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