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Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
Frugal Dad .com ^ | July 23, 2009 | Frugal Dad

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

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Did you hear about the guy that lives on nothing? No seriously, he lives on zero dollars a day. Meet Daniel Suelo, who lives in a cave outside Moab, Utah. Suelo has no mortgage, no car payment, no debt of any kind. He also has no home, no car, no television, and absolutely no “creature comforts.” But he does have a lot of creatures, as in the mice and bugs that scurry about the cave floor he’s called home for the last three years.

To us, Suelo probably sounds a little extreme. Actually, he probably sounds very extreme. After all, I suspect most of you reading this are doing so under the protection of some sort of man-made shelter, and with some amount of money on your person, and probably a few needs for money, too. And who doesn’t need money unless they have completely unplugged from the grid? Still, it’s an amusing story about a guy who rejects all forms of consumerism as we know it.

The Frugal Roundup

How to Brew Your Own Beer and Maybe Save Some Money. A fantastic introduction to home brewing, something I’ve never done myself, but always been interested in trying. (@Generation X Finance)

Contentment: A Great Financial Principle. If I had to name one required emotion for living a frugal lifestyle it would be contentment. Once you are content with your belongings and your lot in life you can ignore forces attempting to separate you from your money. (@Personal Finance by the Book)

Use Energy Star Appliances to Save On Utility Costs. I enjoyed this post because it included actual numbers, and actual total savings, from someone who upgraded to new, energy star appliances. (@The Digerati Life)

Over-Saving for Retirement? Is it possible to “over-save” for retirement? Yes, I think so. At some point I like the idea of putting some money aside in taxable investments outside of retirement funds, to be accessed prior to traditional retirement age. (@The Simple Dollar)

40 Things to Teach My Kids Before They Leave Home. A great list of both practical and philosophical lessons to teach your kids before they reach the age where they know everything. I think that now happens around 13 years-old. (@My Supercharged Life)

Index Fund Investing Overview. If you are looking for a place to invest with high diversification and relatively low fees (for broader index funds with low turnover), index funds are a great place to start. (@Money Smart Life)

5 Reasons To Line Dry Your Laundry. My wife and I may soon be installing a clothesline in our backyard. In many neighborhoods they are frowned upon - one of the reasons I don’t like living in a neighborhood. I digress. One of our neighbors recently put up a clothesline, and we might just follow his lead. (@Simple Mom)

A Few Others I Enjoyed

* 4 Quick Tips for Getting Out of a Rut * Young and Cash Rich * Embracing Simple Style * First Trading Experience With OptionsHouse * The Exponential Power of Delayed Consumption * How Much Emergency Fund is Enough? * 50 Questions that Will Free Your Mind * Save Money On Car Insurance


TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: emergencypreparation; food; frugal; frugality; garden; gf; gluten; glutenfree; granny; hunger; jm; nwarizonagranny; prep; prepper; preppers; preps; starvation; stinkbait; survival; survivalists; wcgnascarthread
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To: Marmolade

They smelled wonderful, too, like springtime. And sooo crisp.


1,881 posted on 09/01/2009 11:51:52 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Marmolade
Eggplants are not like tomatoes. Their color doesn't improve with ripening.. In fact as they get old they will loose their purple.

Elderly eggplant get bitter.. It's one of the reason's that folks think they don't like it.

Young and tender is the best..

With older eggplants they recommend salting and weighting in a colander for the bitter juices to drip out. Young fruits do not have the problem.

Eggplants are wonderfully versatile.. You can add them directly to spaghetti sauce if you like a meaty sauce.

You can split them and use olive oil and herbs and grill them face down..

You can thin slice them and used them instead of noodles in lasagna.

Mousakka...

1,882 posted on 09/01/2009 1:05:16 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Marmolade

Look up spaetzle... It may be what you are thinking of.

Spaetzle (Spätzle) Recipe


2 cups all-purpose flour

1 teaspoon salt

2 eggs

3/4 cup milk

Stir together the flour and salt. Combine eggs and milk; stir into the flour mixture. Pour the batter into the Spätzle Hex and place it on the lip of a large saucepan or pot (with a diameter of at least 20 cm or 8 in) of boiling, salted water. Turn the crank with one hand, keeping the Spätzle Hex gently in place with the other.

Take care to let the extruded pieces of dough (the Spätzle) fall into the slightly bubbling water and let them cook for approximately 2-3 minutes. Generally, Spätzle swimming on the surface are sufficiently cooked and may be gathered with a large slotted spoon, drained and placed into a serving dish. Stir in some melted butter or margarine to keep the Spätzle from sticking together and garnish with some bread crumbs. Makes about 4 cups of Spätzle, which is sufficient as a side dish for 2-3 people.

Serve with nearly any meat dish. Spätzle is great with gravy, sauces or just plain.

It makes great noodles for side dishes...But in a pinch you can make them directly into broth as a substitute for egg noodles.


1,883 posted on 09/01/2009 1:09:26 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I use my clothes line most of the year.

This is counter intuitive but I have found on a hot dry day hang out the lightest weight stuff first.

Usually by the time permanent press is dry...They can come down and towels or jeans can go out and have the rest of the day.

If you do the heaviest first...you may only be able to get one line done.

My Mom was the queen of the clothes line..She had a dryer and only used it on rare occasions.

She used it in any dry weather.. Yes you can freeze dry laundry.

She did laundry for 2 adults and 10 kids.


1,884 posted on 09/01/2009 1:12:53 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: All

Index:

http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=01de7143dc943afd8bc12ead946ee6de&f=8

Tent City’s in TN
http://features.csmonitor.com/econom...psite-is-home/

From: http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=75697

Stuy Town, Which Is On Verge Of Default, Costs Florida’s Pension Fund Entire $250 Million Investment

http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=75687

[Several threads worth checking out.....granny]


1,885 posted on 09/01/2009 1:23:04 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All; DelaWhere; TenthAmendmentChampion; CottonBall; Joya; Marmolade; ...

(excerpt from newsbusters):

Mybarackobama.com Page Planned Phone Campaign on 9/11 Against ‘Right-Wing Domestic Terrorists’ On Health Reform

On Monday, Jonah Goldberg at The Corner forwarded a shocking page from the Organizing for America website (mybarackobama.com) that promoted setting aside 9/11 as a day to call Senators to pass a Public Option as they “fight back against our own Right-Wing Domestic Terrorists.” They also suggest conservatives are “the heirs of yes, bin Laden.”

All 50 States are coordinating in this – as we fight back against our own Right-Wing Domestic Terrorists who are subverting the American Democratic Process, whipped to a frenzy by their Fox Propaganda Network ceaselessly re-seizing power for their treacherous leaders.

link:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/09/01/mybarackobama-com-page-planned-phone-campaign-9-11-against-right-wing-do

????


1,886 posted on 09/01/2009 1:27:33 PM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: All

[Read this one, for it is happening all over the country, the woman from ‘Meals on Wheels’ tried to pull it on me a couple years ago.

I was lucky, for the man from Adult Protective Services, understood that some prefer simple living and being frugal.

granny...............

http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=75485

snipped from all the details........

Originally Posted by mediatruth View Post

DALLAS - They’re not criminals. They’ve broken no laws.
But they’re being held against their will by the State of Texas.

Why?

It’s a tragic story about what can happen when you are alone in the world
and lose control of your rights, your money, and your ability to complain.

The state took over the Kidds lives, sent them to the Countryside Nursing Home
in Pilot Point, and is now burning through their money to pay for their care.


1,887 posted on 09/01/2009 1:35:38 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Urban Agriculture in the Dutch City of Almere

The city of Almere (30 km east of Amsterdam) has to double in size (190,000 towards
350,000 inhabitants) over the next 20 years. This summer Almere launched its plans
for this so called Scale Jump Almere 2030 (Almere 2.0). East of the city on approximately
3.000 ha. Almere wants to develop a district (Almere Oosterwold) where urban agriculture
will be the driver of city development.


The Chicken Revolution - a documentary coming soon

This rap music video is the trailer for the upcoming feature length documentary.

It is a satire meant to show the absurdity of some of the arguments against hen-keeping
in the city.

Buster English: The Green Thumb - New York Times Photos and Audio
Mr. English began gardening as a teenager with his grandfather in South Carolina,
then took it up again to “stay out of trouble” after moving to the Walt Whitman
Houses. He lives with his three teenage daughters (his son lives with a grandmother),
and calls his plot of land the Cabbage Patch.


Biosphere Home Farming from Philips designers

Looking into the economics and politics of rising food prices and theories about
impending food shortages led us to create the “food farm” to test peoples sensitivity
to the issue. We wanted to develop something initially that would supplement the
nutritional needs of a family living in high rise accommodation, without drawing
electricity or gas.


Fire Escape Gardening in Manhattan

When I was planning my fire escape garden I planted cherry tomatoes thinking the
plant would be small and perfect for the small space - not so much.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Complete stories can be read here.
City Farmer News [http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102688907006&s=1304&e=001jX0q5YzwEHtwN2VROCyzZlZp0YUFh5bQbndyYbEOdkq4EFrx4Yn0MW-IvghXEv1xmAd-1-tI-It0Uw9Yw7rDRsqZC8OyYJleQ2G3ILeURSXftiB6W5YkMQ==]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Michael Levenston
City Farmer - Canada’s Office of Urban Agriculture


1,888 posted on 09/01/2009 1:48:14 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction.

Arrest for refusal to be “decontaminated”<<<<

That is to keep you from talking to any one else and convincing them to refuse the shots.

It will get ugly and fast and not that far in the future.


1,889 posted on 09/01/2009 1:52:53 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Just about every day, Yahoo.com has as a leading story how something points to the recession being over. Reminds me of a bit of MacBeth - methinks thou dost protest too much! (meaning, repeating it too often means they are trying to convince themselves)<<<

They lied to get us to ok the bailout and it backfired on them, LOL, world wide.

Now, they must lie to get out of the depression that they helped to create.

My opinion.


1,890 posted on 09/01/2009 2:13:18 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Nothing like a bowl of them with sweet cream and a bare dusting of sugar.<<<

Sounds so good, that I shall take the intent and have a bowl of fresh peaches with ice cream.

LOL


1,891 posted on 09/01/2009 2:14:37 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I’d love to have another dog for my dog. She needs a pet.<<<

You need the 4 legged kitten.

It did not like me at all, then came to find out what makes the Purr Baby purr so loud.

And now I notice that TT cleans the Purr Baby, always in front of me, so I will see what a nice kitten she is.

Makes the baby be still and does the ears and all....

TT could handle your dog.


1,892 posted on 09/01/2009 2:17:19 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

I wish I had room for some of these poor critters.<<<

I hoped some of you would pass the word around, for the fire is not over and indeed is making a fresh run, today they say it is 120,000 acres.


1,893 posted on 09/01/2009 2:18:35 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Hmmmm... two can play at this game...


1,894 posted on 09/01/2009 2:22:20 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Whooo hooo, Glenn Beck talked about this last night! I wonder if he read my email about it?? I’m so glad I sent it to him. He’s going to talk about it more today!


1,895 posted on 09/01/2009 2:26:01 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I bet. I’d love to have her. I’m glad you’re enjoying them.


1,896 posted on 09/01/2009 2:35:13 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Marmolade; DelaWhere

“>>>It would be interesting to apply the copper wire to one of the 3 shoots and see what you get in growth, will it grow larger and stronger?<<<

Not the answer to your question, but interesting....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=wVG&q=copper+wire++wrap+around+tree+limb&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

This is the reason behind the wire wrapped tree limbs:

http://www.google.com/search?q=+electro+magnetic+healing+used+on+trees&btnG=Search&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&sa=2

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&ei=d5KdSq3SC46xtgfAxtHjAw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&q=electromagnetic+healing+used+on+trees&spell=1

Very interesting google, lots of people healing:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=electro+magnetic+healing+used+on+trees&start=10&sa=N

[Not read]

Re-Energize Your Cells Back Into Balance - It All Starts With Your ...
The snow was really beautiful around here, snow covering all the trees ..... This system has been used to accelerate wound healing and soft tissue swelling. .... “Introduction Low-frequency electromagnetic radiation has been used for ...
pulsedmagnetictherapy.net/blog/ - Similar


Years ago, I read about copper wire being wrapped around tree branches in India, about 800 years ago, it was to heal ailing trees.......and they said it worked.

Rodale also did research on electro magnetic fields and I still have a few cans in the ground part ways, that I planted seedlings in [no top or bottom,], the cans were to attract the electro magnetic fields in the air.

And at the very least, will offer cut worm protection.


One more try and this one is really important, tells of the many tests on using the electro magnetic fields for plant growth..........

http://www.google.com/search?q=Electro+magnetic+growth+for+plants&btnG=Search&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=QBb&sa=2

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&ei=Q5WdSt0uxam2B5ifpecD&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Electromagnetic+growth+for+plants&spell=1

Maybe not on Pine trees:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Electromagnetic+growth+for+trees&btnG=Search&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&sa=2


1,897 posted on 09/01/2009 2:49:32 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Marmolade

Excellent collection of articles on the more recent food riots of the world:

Take a look...........granny

https://lists.resist.ca/pipermail/onthebarricades/2008-April/000431.html
Got a security warning when I tried the link. Not sure if someone just doesn’t want me to view these or if there really is a problem. <<<

It might have been your computer, for there isn’t anything on the page except a collection of newspaper articles.

Piper Mail, is a mailer of news letters and this is not a homepage, but a very plain page of articles with links.

LOL, I went back to check and be sure. I see no reason for it not to be safe, but then I did not click any of the links in the page, no need to, for the paragraph tells the story, when you see so many on one page.


1,898 posted on 09/01/2009 2:53:57 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE

You can see it cached here:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:3kI-WRLXCWwJ:my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/healthcareorganizingevent/gpk4cj+”defeat+anti+democratic+forces+of+hate+who+conspire+to+remain+healthy”&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


1,899 posted on 09/01/2009 2:57:44 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Marmolade

I always enjoyed hanging clothes, a good time to think.

NO, I am not a perfectionist, like some that I know, I pay attention to dress types, to cut down on ironing and much gets one clothes pin.

LOL, the very first time that Mary came to visit me, I had used the used wringer washer and done a huge wash, got it all hung out, on a rope that Bill had strung up, until he could build a clothes line.

We lived in a tiny trailer and I went in to fix dinner.

Mary stayed out in the patio.

When I came out for a break, she said “My Dear, I hope you don’t mind, but I rehung some of your clothes, I couldn’t bear to see them hanging as you had them!!!”

She had a bright idea, for she had proper clothes lines and a well, [we were still hauling water], that in the future, I would do my laundry at her house...

Mary always did the hanging of my clothes, while I did the other parts of using the wringer washer. She insisted.

And we did for years, till I had a well and an automatic washer.


1,900 posted on 09/01/2009 3:02:20 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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