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1 posted on 07/16/2009 7:47:15 AM PDT by franksolich
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Is it bad manners to tell some old spinster to mind her own @!@)*#ing business?


2 posted on 07/16/2009 7:48:08 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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3 posted on 07/16/2009 7:48:49 AM PDT by franksolich (Scourge of the Primitives, in service to humanity)
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To: franksolich

Yes it is rude, it communicates to others that they are not worthy of your attention, regardless of your motives for whipping out reading material.


4 posted on 07/16/2009 7:49:13 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: franksolich

Yeah, it’s bad manners. But I do it, too. Or I did until my wife finally put her foot down.

But it’s also bad manners to correct people. It’s worse to gossip.

So I say it’s a wash.


5 posted on 07/16/2009 7:49:35 AM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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It’s the first sign of a serial killer


6 posted on 07/16/2009 7:49:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Common in my family growing up. Not prone to idle banter, the four of us would often all have books and read during dinner together.

Startled the heck out of me one day when I started doing this around someone else and her reaction was “Yuck! You’re reading at the table?” I learned to limit doing so in non-introverted company.


7 posted on 07/16/2009 7:50:39 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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By doing that the message you are sending is “the silkworm industry in France during the 1840s” is of more interest to you than the people around you. You decide if that’s rude or not.


8 posted on 07/16/2009 7:51:09 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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Definitively rude.

If you take the time to dine with someone, you must also take the time to converse with that someone - even if it is empty small talk. If you want to read - stay at home in your studay, or go to the library.


13 posted on 07/16/2009 7:55:17 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: franksolich

Unless one is alone and the book one’s only companion, yes, it is rude.


14 posted on 07/16/2009 7:55:37 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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Yes, bad manners. If you were with 9 other people, then it was likely at a social event. If you do not wish to socialize, then you should not have been at a social event.

It was disrespectful to the people who may have wanted to engage you in conversation. It was definately insulting to the host who had invited you as you ignored the rest of his guests.


15 posted on 07/16/2009 7:56:20 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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Nothing personal, but in my opinion it is bad manners to read at the dinner table if there are others at the table. Also to use a laptop, or use your phone for conversation or texting.

When eating with others, I believe manners requires that you remain open to conversation with others. If others monopolize the ocnversation and ignore you, that is unmannerly as well — when you see others being left out of conversation, the mannerly thing is to draw them in, or change the topic. You can do this by drawing the whole group, or by starting up a side conversation.

It is OK to read or do other things if you are dining alone.

That is my opinion.


16 posted on 07/16/2009 7:56:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: franksolich

Yes, bad manners


17 posted on 07/16/2009 7:56:52 AM PDT by jpsb
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Now a reasonable exception might apply if you had been engaged in a heated debate about the silkworm industry, and to settle the dispute pulled out your Blackberry (or iPhone) to find what the ultimate authority on the subject, Wikipedia, had to say.


21 posted on 07/16/2009 7:59:25 AM PDT by Arguendo
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Yes, it is abominable manners. If you’re reading at the table, it is a direct way of saying, “You people are of no interest to me; I am so bored by you that I must entertain myself in some other way.” Now, this of course is exactly your situation, but sometimes in the name of peace and kindness we refrain from insulting people.

If you can’t interest yourself in what other people are talking about, the problem may be with them—perhaps they really are idiots who speak only about trivia—or it may be with you. It’s possible, in other words, that they’re all idiots. It’s equally possible that you are a snob for thinking your thoughts are superior to theirs. In either case it’s hardly a penance to put on a mask of courtesy for as long as it takes to eat your meal, perhaps 20 minutes at most.

You might also consider really listening to others. It’s surprising, but some people who aren’t apparently as intelligent or educated as you are or don’t share your interests may still have things to teach you.


22 posted on 07/16/2009 8:01:12 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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Frank,

Your name is familiar. Weren’t you once the FB head coach at Nebraska?

As to the topic, reading tells the other people at the table that they are uninteresting and unworthy of your attention. While they may very well be uninteresting and unworthy of attention, you chose to engage in that social setting. So, you are stuck having to fake some interest.

Yeah, it kinda sux.


26 posted on 07/16/2009 8:03:22 AM PDT by neocon1984
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Of course, there's a practical matter here; too many people, too much light and movement, too much color, which to me is "noise," and so I can't keep track of what's being said, or what I think's being said.

Those circumstances would make it impossible for me to concentrate on reading anything except maybe a menu!

Plus.. It's rude.
28 posted on 07/16/2009 8:06:35 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts
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While I do understand about not being able to hear much, if any, of what’s being said during dinner conversation, I do think it’s inappropriate for you to read at the dinner table unless you’re surrounded by immediate family.

When you accept a dining invitation from friends and acquaintances you really do need to put the book down and at least attempt to be a part of the group. Reading a book isolates you from the rest of your dining companions and sends the message (whether true or not) that you find the company you’re with boring and not worthy of your attention. In essence you might as well be eating alone at a separate table.

It’s different when you’re sharing a meal with immediate family because they fully understand your difficulty in being able to follow conversation because of your hearing loss.


31 posted on 07/16/2009 8:11:46 AM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (http://www.fda.gov/emaillist.html - Class I (life threatening) recalls email alert sign-up)
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To: franksolich

From reading your family dinner habits, when eating with your family you are not out of order to read.

In ‘social’ situations at the dining table, it would be considered somewhat inappropriate. It does sort of say “you bore me”, so I think I will read.

I must say, I get a humorous, fond sort of kick out of your family’s reading at the dinner table. I am also impressed by the reading subject which engrossed you at Wednesday nights dinner! You must have a very interesting mind.


34 posted on 07/16/2009 8:21:16 AM PDT by Dudoight
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If you are dining WITH others, yes, it’s rude.


40 posted on 07/16/2009 8:55:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out)
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>>>>I was reading the Encyclopedia Americana, specifically the entries about the silkworm industry in France during the 1840s,<<<<<<

Wait...what?
I’m sorry. I am afraid we can’t be friends anymore.


41 posted on 07/16/2009 9:00:21 AM PDT by envisio (Sexual Beer & BBQ Ribs)
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