Posted on 07/05/2009 12:58:12 PM PDT by ckilmer
A private investigator has released to WND an affidavit that casts doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at the address listed in the published notice of his birth in 1961.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
From what I have read “both” the mother and father have to be US citizens and the mother did not qualify under the laws of Hawaii anyway.
Was his name Lucas Smith ?
ducking :-)
Are you implying that Barry is a Bastard?
Becuase I think he is a Prick.
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I think he’s both of the above but also a closet homosexual and a Communist.
” Also his trip to Pakistan before college.”
Or why Michelle and he made Bali, Indonesia their home for “ months “ in 1994.
So, he could find peace and quiet to finish Dreams.
( paragraph 20 )
The United States had no peaceful places for Obama, who was a nobody back then, to finish his book.
And he needed months, not weeks ,to do this.
One of two scenarios IMHO:
. If Hillary had that card, she'd probably have played it by now; or
. The Democratic Party is covering it up and likely helping pay to keep the college and birth documentation sealed for perpetuity. They cannot afford for this information to ever be revealed, no matter what it takes to keep it untouchable. Scare tactics to the supremes (riots in the streets - burning of cities) could be used to contradict constitutional law.
To bad Steve McGarrett is not running Hawaii Five-0 anymore. He would get to the bottom of this in no time. He could send Chin over to check out that phony Kalanianaole Highway address as Che proves Zero’s birth certificate to be a forgery.
Then we could all watch as Steve (with not a hair out of place) turns to Danny (as Zero is being cuffed) and says, “Book him Dan-O”.
I can dream, can’t I?
So, you may ask, why is it even important to be more strictly a natural born citizen? ... Short answer is That is what the Constitution requires.
So, you may ask, what is the harm if this particular pres__ent is not a real natural born citizen? ... Simplest answer, if we the people can be prevented from having the standing to require he prove his natural boirn status as per the Constitution, then the Constitutional contract between we the people and the federal oligarchs has been abrogated by the federal oligarchs and we the people are no long the sovereigns, thus the 'Constitutional Republic' has ended in a legal sense.
The Hawaii birth is bogus. He was born in Kenya or God know’s where. What I mean is, and this is the challenge I don’t have an answer for is: if he was born in Kenya to a woman who was an American citizen, does that make him an American citizen eligible to run for President? Because we know for a fact his father is a Kenyan, and apparently no ones thinks having a Kenyan father disqualifies him.
Er.......WND, or World Net Daily...is an amazing online investigative and research oriented conservative site, as well as a superb resource for excellent editorials and analysis of ongoing political events. Try it out...you’ll LIKE IT!
Further his natural born eligibility is eroded in the definition of allegiance, citizenship and laws that govern you as a citizen of the country from whence you came.
You will find a further definition in the 14th amendment:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Barry's Father was a citizen of Kenya and subject to jurisdiction of said country. In other words he is entitled to or restricted to any conveyance of laws by the country of Kenya.
Barry acknowledges this and apparently no one cares. Barry tells you proudly that he was a citizen of Kenya due to his father's citizenship. It is there in plain view, unabashedly.
Was Barry a citizen of the United States at the time of his birth? The answer is probably no and you will find others who will add to this post, shortly.
Even if he was born here, which is very much in doubt, he cannot be a "Natural Born Citizen" as his father was a Kenyan, making him a citizen of Kenya. If one wants to extend to him citizenship because his mother was born here and was citizen at the time of his birth, again the argument that he is "Natural Born" falls apart and he admits as much. At best he would have a divided citizenship and thus his ability to be President by a clouded birth of citizenship which the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, makes a clear distinction as to who qualifies.
Bottom line is Barry was a citizen of another country at birth and his citizenship at birth is clearly not natural born.
Both Parents are required to citizens of the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. You will find reasons why they could be disqualified as being under the jurisdiction of the United States to bolster your argument but that might be for another time.
the kenya grandma says she was there at his birth in kenya... no wonder he doesn’t visit/help/acknowledge kenya anymore.... jerk
Yes, the Constitution REQUIRES that you be a natural born citizen to run for POTUS. I guess my question is more specifically - if Barrys mother is a natural born US citizen (which no one seems to question) and she gave birth in Kenya and the father is Kenyan, is Barry a natural born citizen?
In my understanding, he is not, because he was not born on US SOIL. And no one has provided any proof he was born on solid USA ground.
What if the KGB has the real copy...I’m just saying
You are mistaken, many of we ‘Birthers’ believe having a Kenyan father immediately removes the natural born citizen status. Apparently, Senators also agree, including Barry Soetoro, since they signed onto a non-binding resolution in April of 2008 which stated that to be natural born, McCain had to have two American citizen parents. Disinformation is the easiest to spread when you’re among ignorant folk.
So he is a Devil Worshipin’, Satanic Inspired, Commie, Faggot?
Poor Bastard.
I much as I would like to believe you, you have this a bit mixed up. By your logic anyone born on US soil but to a foreign father is not a natural born citizen. This would have shut everyone up about Barry’s bogus citizenship long ago and it is unchallenged that his father is Kenyan. I also think have the father/mother thing wrong, as unless we are doing genetic testing to establish birth certificates, then all a woman has to do to establish citizenship for her child is to lie about who the father is. Thus a kenyan woman could lie and say the father is a US citizen and her kenyan born child becomes a US Citizen. I know that ain’t right.
“I’ve suspected something similar for a while also. I highly doubt that he wasn’t born in Hawaii, but there sure is a lot of potentially troubling information on a birth certificate.”
I’ll grant you that. But why the lockdown on every scrap of paper in the man’s entire LIFE? For a bunch of otherwise bumbling fools, Dems sure know how to erase a man’s past as though he were hatched yesterday.
Mistaken about what? My brother in law is English, as in born in London. My sister is of course a natural born citizen. They have two children, both of whom were born in Chicago. Are those children eligible to run for POTUS? If they are, your point is wrong.
However, the answer is always that you don't denounce your US citizenship. If he was natural born he will always have US citizenship.
As for scholarship fraud, if he had two citizenships, given that he couldn't renounce his US citizenship, he would, at worst, be guilty of fraud.
How does the school record establish that he wasn't natural born?
Forget all that genetic argument stuff as it has nothing to do with where you where born and for the sake of this argument we are discussing lines on a map. Within those lines are countries and we want to know for certain within whose border you and your parents were born.
Barry tells you straight his father is or was a citizen of Kenya and that he himself, Barry, was a citizen of Kenya at birth for that reason alone.
Therefore he is not a natural born citizen with undivided citizen and loyalties at birth. Hmmm, now that I think of maybe that is why he went on his world citizenship tour before the election.
In regards to some wench lying about the citizenship status of the father that is a bit a stretch for this or any other argument, isn't it? We would still have to establish jurisdictional citizenship of the parent and lacking such evidence there could be real or legitimate confirmation of status.
Of course, if Barry's parents were Mexican then it wouldn't matter. As an aside, you will find many of us referring to Barry because the name he wants us to believe is his doesn't show up in the spell checker here at Free Republic. That alone proves he is an illegitimate ghost. LOL /s
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