Posted on 06/29/2009 12:17:06 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
I fly a lot. It’s gotten to be such a hassle that I’m cutting down on my air travel, and even turning down a number of engagements because I just don’t want to go through the ordeal at the airports. What ordeal? If you ask that question, you must not have flown anywhere since 9/11. I’m talking about the security gauntlet every passenger has to go through. If you have flown anywhere, you’ve had to get in the lines. Take off every bit of metal bigger than a dime, your jacket, hat, and shoes, perhaps your belt … and, if you have a computer, put it in a separate tray, hoping for a reunion after you pass your body through a powerful scanner. If you have a metal knee or hip replacement or a pacemaker, you’ll probably have to go through a separate line and submit to a “wand scan” and even a hands-on “pat down.” It can be quite humiliating, and the process can even cause you to miss your plane. If you’ve checked into a hotel lately, you know you always have to produce your driver’s license or valid photo identification. Same if you want to rent a car. When you shop at Costco, for Pete’s sake, you have to prove you’re who you are and that you’re a credentialed Costco shopper with a valid credit card (which they’ll verify on the spot) just to get in the door. When you get gas — if you can still afford it to — and you want to use your credit card, you pass it into a slot checker, and still have to punch in your area ZIP code. Right? ............ (read on at enclosed link).
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If Barack Obama is convicted of a felony for being responsible for a forged COLB and defraudung the American people, knowingly, then YES I would be label him a felon.
Re: “producing a forged government document is a felony
Are you suggesting that Obama is a felon?”
and the COLB could very well be a forgery (...producing a forged government document is a felony ).
(Thanks real_patriotic_american.)
A person who commits a felony is felon, whether he is convicted or not. Our system of criminal justice has never been efficient enough to indict, prosecute, and convict all individuals who commit crimes, even not all who commit the most serious crimes. Have you ever heard of unsolved murder mysteries, for example? (On the other hand, there are people who are convicted erroneously of crimes they didn't commit.)
In Obama's case (as with other political figures, particularly Democrats), we are dealing with the phenomenon that some are - regrettably - above the law.
Many years ago, Theodore Roosevelt said, "No man is above the law..." Unfortunately that's no longer the case, especially regarding 'Rat politicians..
The ebay listing is gone again.It was at 15.999.00.
Thanks, justiceseeker93.
These documents MUST be subpoened! It could prove that Obama knows that he’s NOT a natural born American citizen and defrauded the American people. There would be a number of crimes committed here.
Re: “If Barack Obama is convicted of a felony ... then yes I would label him a felon.
A person who commits a felony is felon, whether he is convicted or not. Our system of criminal justice has never been efficient enough to indict, prosecute, and convict all individuals who commit crimes, even not all who commit the most serious crimes. Have you ever heard of unsolved murder mysteries, for example? (On the other hand, there are people who are convicted erroneously of crimes they didn’t commit.)
In Obama’s case (as with other political figures, particularly Democrats), we are dealing with the phenomenon that some are - regrettably - above the law.”
Hopefully, Obama had to shelve out another $15.999.00 to have it deleted (lol).
Re: “The ebay listing is gone again.It was at 15.999.00.”
Perhaps, even likely, he was born in a Vancouver Canada area hospital, probably one that serves a "home" for unwed mothers. Not this his mother was "unwed", but rather she, or Toots, her mother, didn't want BHO Sr to have anything to do with little Barry, which he did not by all accounts. Stanley Ann, BHO jr's mother, started attending classes at the University of Washington, no later than mid September of '61, around 6 weeks after his purported birth date. Reports from her friend, Susan Blake, put her on Mercer Island, when the baby was still "all pink" and when she did not yet know how to change his nappies. (No Pampers or other disposables in '61). Generally women were taught that skill in the hospital in those days, where they were kept somewhat longer than is current practice. But not if the mother was expected to give the baby up for adoption. Theory is, she reneged on a deal made with her parents, but still took the "reward" of attending UofW instead of UofHawaii, as she had done the first semeter of the 60-61 school year. Since her family had moved to Hawaii not long before that, she graduated from Mercer Island HS, all her friends were in Washington state, not Hawaii.
She and BHO Jr did not return to Hawaii until about the time BHO Sr. left for Havard.
That depends. At my normal point of departure, a 4 jetway airport serving "commuter" type airlines, it's not bad. Omaha wasn't bad the one time I flew out of there. San Diego is Not Good, but Orlando is worse. Orlando is the pits.
My wife and I are going to the one held in the Woodlands, Texas. We're going to make lot’s of noise and are both talking about becoming conservative (in name only) ACTIVISTS!!!
Quite possibly, Grace Hospital now BC Women's Hospital & Health Centre which had a special ward just for the unwed mothers, back in those days.
Now if someone in Vancouver or Seattle could just check the announcements for the time period in Vancouver, we might find something "interesting". Remember that she might have used her maiden name, Stanley Ann Dunham.
Lets go get em in court. Here's how.
I'm going to post this so that EVERYONE who thinks we are powerless to do something about this understands how best to go about it. We need to find the legal remedy enabling us to charge our representatives with disobeying their oaths of office and start removing them one by one. Here is the case.
Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:
" ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”
Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19
TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES
Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act
”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President. “
Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:
” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:
The process currently provides that someone “challenge” the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.
The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.
There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.
” No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?
If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.
Based upon the above, I conclude that:
1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.
2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.
3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.
I agree with SD and Orlando. Most of my flying is international, so I guess I’m lucky with the airports.
Thanks justiceseeker93.
Tell me about it. I’ve lived in the Chicagoland area all my life.
Obama and his Chicago style thug politics will wear on America’s nerves real fast!
Re: “Tell me about it. I’ve lived in the Chicagoland area all my life.”
its now $77,877.00
There are three things in life that are inevitable: Death, Taxes, and Obama's COLB is a forgery. If anyone says it's not, bet them for any amount they want and take the wager!
But, I get a cut of the action.
Many times over. About 13 counts of felony document fraud at last "count."
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