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The Evolution Interpreter: Generic Transition Form Fossil Discovery Article
Vanity ^ | 04/22/2009 | Liberty1970

Posted on 04/22/2009 1:11:09 PM PDT by Liberty1970

Over the years I’ve read copiously on the subject of origins. I’ve noticed the media pronouncements on the subject of new fossils and evolutionary theory form a startlingly repetitive pattern. To save the over-worked and increasingly bankrupt news media I’ve undertaken to serve them with a generic news story that can be copy-and-pasted with few modifications and reused as frequently as desired.

New Fossil Discovery Is Transition Form, Provides Proof of Evolution!

University of ________

Scientists say they’ve found a “missing link” in the early evolution of ______ - the skeleton of a ______ that was evolving away from ______ to _______. [Translation: They found something new, therefore it must have evolved by time + chance from something else.]

These _______ features were a new adaptation as the species evolved into ______. [Translation: If we imagine hard enough, anything is possible.]

Experts called it "a fantastic discovery" that fills a crucial gap in the fossil record. [Translation: Give us more $$$ for our Very Important Work.]

The ___ million-year-old creature was not a direct ancestor of today's ______. It's from a different branch. But it does show what an early direct ancestor looked like, said researcher [Translation: The headline is a big fat lie and once again we can’t actually find an actual ancestor of modern life that shows innovative evolutionary change, but please don’t notice that. We think this critter is _close enough_ for propaganda purposes.]

Dr. _______, a biology professor at ______ State University who wasn't involved in the work, welcomed the find. [Translation: Can I use this to get more grant $$$ too?]

"This is a fantastic discovery that fills a critical evolutionary gap (from) when ______ traded _____ for ______ and moved from ______ to ______," she wrote in an e-mail. [Translation: This Really Important Discovery demands more research funding. Hint, hint.]

Not all experts agreed. Professor _____ noted that an older fossil of the same type had been discovered in ______. [Translation: We pick and choose what evidence we like to focus on, and hope for the best.]

But _____, who didn't participate in the paper, called the discovery exciting because it provides direct evidence for what early ________ in the _____-to-______ transition looked like. [Translation: I won’t rock the boat. By the way, give us more $$$.]

Overall, 100% of officially-sanctioned scientists said, the discovery was a tremendous, awesome, spectacular find that overwhelmingly proves that only idiotic, anti-scientific dolts would dare disbelieve in evolutionism, and the public needs to spend lots more tax dollars supporting them and their Very Important Work. [Never mind the complete lack of patents or other real technological application for their work and personal agendas.]


TOPICS: Education; Reference; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; followthemoney; fossil; godsgravesglyphs; ibelieve; missinglink; researchpaper; theory; transition
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Seriously, next time you see an article claiming evidence for evolution, and the next time, and the next time, see how it fits this pattern. In the fine print they are forever admitting their dramatic claims are not really a good stratomorphic intermediate, and assuming common ancestry by evolutionary mechanisms is not the same as demonstrating those mechanisms are viable, or that the critter in question was ancestral to any other particular critter (which they generally admit was not in the fine print, as noted above).

And let’s not even get into the failure of the headline-grabbing evolutionists to present with the same energy the critical articles within the evolutionary literature responding to these claims, or the retractions, contrary discoveries, and admissions of error that crop up in the years following each dramatic claim. It’s easy for me to see why people who read the mainstream science journals superficially believe in evolution. But for those who dig deeper, the failure of evolutionary stories to hold up over time is very consistent. It should be no surprise how many anti-evolutionists explain how they became creationists or ID’ers after trying to corroborate some evolutionary claim. Just keep digging folks, that’s all I ask of you…

1 posted on 04/22/2009 1:11:09 PM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: Liberty1970

Getting your science information from the MSM is kind of like using CNN as your only source in your quest to understand Christianity.


2 posted on 04/22/2009 1:15:51 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Liberty1970

Congratulations, you’ve figured it out!!


3 posted on 04/22/2009 1:16:09 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: GodGunsGuts

Figured this would be worth pinging you. I’m quite serious about the script-like repetitiveness of evolutionary propaganda on this subject (and the boring consistency of the fine-print admissions). Their news writers must really be in a rut.


4 posted on 04/22/2009 1:16:14 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Liberty1970

5 posted on 04/22/2009 1:17:07 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Liberty1970

Filling in the blanks and getting details is just that. And TToE doesn’t need “proof” or “more proof.”

Science is about following the facts. Scientific theories provide a framework for doing that.

If you don’t understand the basics of science, you really should not make threads drawing attention to that fact.

Have a blessed day!


6 posted on 04/22/2009 1:25:56 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: qam1

OMG that is hilarious!


7 posted on 04/22/2009 1:27:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

A very funny (and sadly true) post from our very own Liberty1970 :o)


8 posted on 04/22/2009 1:30:06 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Liberty1970

One thing that has bothered me about discoveries from fossils is the level of testing to which these revelations are subject. If all the fossils to date were placed in structures with boundaries the size of the Rose Bowl, how many such structures would be filled? Let’s say 20 were filled. Now if we compress all that organic matter into crude oil, would we have enough to run my truck for a year or a decade? With so little examined evidence in relation to the total population, are the such detailed conclusions statistically responsible? Has suitable mathematical analysis ever been applied to these scientific papers? PhD candidates for psychology and sociology have to hire graduate math majors to evaluate their data so their committees can see the level of support the data provides for their conclusions. I don’t believe such a process is considered by these people.


9 posted on 04/22/2009 1:35:25 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: freedumb2003
Science is about following the facts. Scientific theories provide a framework for doing that.

In this case we have a historical theory (common descent by solely natural processes), not observational science, that is inconsistent with scientific evidence that tells us how evolutionary change occurs in nature. We have a lot of data from evolutionary biology and population genetics that clearly demonstrates that life is degrading (as actually observed, even if we restrict ourselves to beneficial mutations) and that significant innovation by chance mutations is out of the question.

10 posted on 04/22/2009 1:38:13 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Retain Mike
There have been hundreds of millions of fossils, at a raw minimum, that have been evaluated by experts (and billions more that have been observed by amateurs). These include at least 250,000 fossil species (google Dave Raup on the subject for example), most of which correspond to living species. This is not consistent with the evolutionary model - estimates from Ernst Mayr and others are that around 600 billion - 1 trillion species should have existed throughout evolutionary time. So very few fossils should correspond to living species.

There is plenty of evidence for stasis of life forms over time - that is clearly the dominant theme of the fossil record, though evolutionists constantly obscure that fact. And there is good evidence for smale scale diversification and speciation within types of life. But the evidence overall is that of an orchard of multiple unlinked living trees of species, not one single evolutionary tree, or a separate creation of each species.

11 posted on 04/22/2009 1:43:32 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Liberty1970
In this case we have a historical theory (common descent by solely natural processes), not observational science, that is inconsistent with scientific evidence that tells us how evolutionary change occurs in nature. We have a lot of data from evolutionary biology and population genetics that clearly demonstrates that life is degrading (as actually observed, even if we restrict ourselves to beneficial mutations) and that significant innovation by chance mutations is out of the question.

Repeating talking points is not understanding science. Evolution is a stochastic process. And all science, by definition, is solely natural. The idea of "life is degrading" states a fundamental misunderstanding of the underlying scientific principles and represents complete scientific illiteracy.

12 posted on 04/22/2009 1:43:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GodGunsGuts

This one doesn’t even rise to one of yours, my Friend.

Have a blessed day!


13 posted on 04/22/2009 1:45:27 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
The idea of "life is degrading" states a fundamental misunderstanding of the underlying scientific principles and represents complete scientific illiteracy.

So you would regard it as unscientific if someone pointed out your car is rusting? This is the philosophical corner that evolutionism is boxing itself into. Making absurd points to avoid the obvious. It is legitimate to evaluate whether a genome is evolving or devolving informationally, and denying that fact won't change how obvious it is to unbiased people.

14 posted on 04/22/2009 1:46:07 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: freedumb2003
And all science, by definition, is solely natural.

The big error, though, is assuming that the sole source of knowledge is science.
15 posted on 04/22/2009 1:47:49 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
The big error, though, is assuming that the sole source of knowledge is science.

Science is the tool God gave us to understand the natural world. Of course there is more, but that is outside the realm of science.

16 posted on 04/22/2009 1:50:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: DevNet
Getting your science information from the MSM is kind of like using CNN as your only source in your quest to understand Christianity.

Indeed. Only creationists are consistently worse at reporting and interpreting science.

17 posted on 04/22/2009 1:51:27 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: freedumb2003
"And all science, by definition, is solely natural."

Only God is natural. Everything else is a creation.

18 posted on 04/22/2009 1:52:51 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Liberty1970
So you would regard it as unscientific if someone pointed out your car is rusting?

Rust is the result of a chemical process. Rusting is not degrading, it is the result of corrosive elements operating on each other.

Cars are the result of and operate withing a static environment, not a stochastic one.

This is the philosophical corner that evolutionism is boxing itself into. Making absurd points to avoid the obvious. It is legitimate to evaluate whether a genome is evolving or devolving informationally, and denying that fact won't change how obvious it is to unbiased people.

"Obvious" to people who don't understand science. Asking lay people to know the difference between a theory and a scientific theory, for example, is probably going to find most do not know. Uninformed opinions, while frequently amusing, are still uninformed.

IOW: "'cause I think so" isn't really a reasoned nor informed basis for any argument.

19 posted on 04/22/2009 1:54:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: DannyTN
Only God is natural. Everything else is a creation. And God gave us a fabulous Universe that operates by a set of observable, discoverable and documentable rules.

Evolution is just one of the many ways He uses to accomplish His goals. Science is the tool by which we discover and use these rules.

Philosophy, while fun and within its context important, is of no value in this pursuit.

20 posted on 04/22/2009 1:57:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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