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Doctors prove that the Iceman was shot to death in the Alps [ Oetzi ]
Earth Times ^ | Wednesday, January 28, 2009 | DPA

Posted on 01/28/2009 7:00:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Doctors who studied the Iceman, a mummified Stone Age hunter found in Italy in 1991, announced conclusive proof Wednesday that he was shot to death with a flint-tipped arrow rather than dying of exposure as once thought. "He only lived for a short time after the arrow impact," said Andreas Nerlich, who headed a joint study by Ludwig Maximilians University of Munich and experts from Bolzano, Italy. Shortly before he was shot in the back, the Iceman suffered a non-lethal blow with a blunt object, possibly a stone from a slingshot, Nerlich's team said in a letter to the online journal Intensive Care Medicine... They said their findings, using new immunohistochemical techniques, of a fatal shot in the back supported the hypothesis that Oetzi was being chased at the time he was killed. The lesion from the blow was just below the arrow strike... A deep cut in the Iceman's hand, which has already been studied in the past, happened several days earlier, possibly in an accident with his flint knife. "In the space of a few days he had two injury sequences, which could possibly indicate two separate attacks on him," Nerlich said. Other scientists estimate Oetzi, who is now on display in the South Tyrol Archaeology Museum in Bolzano, died at age 46. His clothing and weapons offer a window into Stone Age lifestyles.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; godsgravesglyphs; iceman; oetzi; otzi; theiceman
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To: SunkenCiv
Grieving widow???

heh,heh

21 posted on 01/28/2009 7:14:19 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: SunkenCiv
he was shot to death with a flint-tipped arrow

Time to ban flint-tipped arrows. ;~))

Seriously. I'm not much of a bleeding heart, but they have studied this poor guy up one side and down the other, and they still have him on display in some museum somewhere.

IMHO, we have learned all we can and it's time to give him a proper burial and let him rest in peace. I feel the same about all the old Egyptian and Inca mummies collecting dust in museums around the world. Yes, they may have had something to tell us, but it reaches a point where they simply become a Ripleys kind of spectacle.

Even though they are ancient, they were once living, breathing, intelligent humans and one of God's special creations. Their remains deserve to be treated with the kind of dignity we would accord to the recently departed and not as some curiosity or tourist attraction.

Just my humble opinion.

22 posted on 01/28/2009 7:25:32 PM PST by Ditto
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To: SunkenCiv

John Conyers is planning to prosecute President Bush over this (more war crimes).


23 posted on 01/28/2009 7:27:40 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh no, not The Iceman!

24 posted on 01/28/2009 7:28:53 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: SunkenCiv

At first I thought you were talking about Richard Kuklinski.


25 posted on 01/28/2009 7:29:13 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Ditto

....I agree Ditto....there have been several specials on TV about this and it looks like they’ve investigated thoroughly....maybe it’s time to lay the matter to rest.


26 posted on 01/28/2009 7:33:49 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: bigheadfred

Ah, I remember the gotcha stories that our out of control warming thawed enough glacier to reveal a 5,000 year old body....

But doesn’t that mean it was fairly warm 5,000 years ago, compared to today’s temperatures. Maybe dinofarts were responsible.


27 posted on 01/28/2009 7:34:25 PM PST by lacrew (Where's Blago?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Was the weapon one of those Assault Bows?

ROFLMAO!

28 posted on 01/28/2009 7:35:56 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
He was a warrior, and he died a violent death.

War is as ancient as mankind. It was the special evolutionary pressure that drove the development of advanced intelligence far beyond the natural need to find food and shelter. The leftest idea that war can now be stamped is a dangerous fantasy.

Bill of rights number 2: the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed!

29 posted on 01/28/2009 7:36:18 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: whodathunkit; the invisib1e hand
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Anyone else out there getting a stimulus they are about to be stabbed in the back?

30 posted on 01/28/2009 7:37:06 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives!!!)
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To: Ditto

“...he was shot to death with a flint-tipped arrow

Time to ban flint-tipped arrows. ;~))”

Agree with your further comments, but...

maybe he shouldn’t have been wearing skins during hunting season?


31 posted on 01/28/2009 7:41:41 PM PST by This_far
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To: SunkenCiv

What is pretty interesting is our 2nd Amnedment came from those parts. The Framers modeled it after Switzerland - see William Tell etc. The Swiss has been able to own weapons since at least Tell’s time around 1307 AD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tell

Our snow warrior also buried not very far from the Beretta HQ. Beretta has been in existence since 1526 AD or 483 years! Their logo has arrows in it.

http://www.beretta.com/index.aspx?m=53&did=5

Hopefully SCOTUS will stand up for the Constitution before the usurper destroys it.


32 posted on 01/28/2009 7:42:21 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: lacrew
Maybe dinofarts were responsible.

I have no doubt. Aren't greenass gasses responsible for global warming today?

33 posted on 01/28/2009 7:45:42 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
A deep cut in the Iceman's hand, which has already been studied in the past, happened several days earlier, possibly in an accident with his flint knife.

Fighting another man or tribe, and cut his hand while stabbing another?

34 posted on 01/28/2009 7:45:51 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: silverleaf

“But does this matter?”

You now decide what matters? Only the things you are interested in matter??

Why read and post if it doesn’t matter to you?


35 posted on 01/28/2009 7:48:10 PM PST by Ecliptic
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To: ForGod'sSake

Why, oh why do you have to do this? It will be hours before I can sleep.


36 posted on 01/28/2009 7:50:07 PM PST by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Pray For Our Troops)
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To: the invisib1e hand; SunkenCiv
no offense, but does this matter?

This is the break we've been waiting for! We can finally shut down the Mastadon Mafia!

37 posted on 01/28/2009 7:51:54 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ForGod'sSake

ForGod’sSake what do we need to do to put a 100% blocker on pics of these grizzley? Wrecks one’s whole frame of mind!


38 posted on 01/28/2009 7:52:08 PM PST by dusttoyou (HNIC)
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To: Ditto

Last thing I remember is the freezing cold
Water reaching up just to swallow me whole
Ice in the rigging and howling wind
Shock to my body as we tumbled in
Then my brothers and the others are lost at sea
I alone am returned to tell thee
Hidden in ice for a century
To walk the world again
Lord have mercy on the frozen man

Next words that were spoken to me
Nurse asked me what my name might be
She was all in white at the foot of my bed
I said angel of mercy Im alive or am I dead
My name is william james mcphee
I was born in 1843
Raised in liverpool by the sea
But that aint who I am
Lord have mercy on the frozen man

It took a lot of money to start my heart
To peg my leg and to buy my eye
The newspapers call me the state of the art
And the children, when they see me, cry
I thought it would be nice just to visit my grave
See what kind of tombstone I might have
I saw my wife and my daughter and it seemed so strange
Both of them dead and gone from extreme old age
See here, when I die make sure Im gone
Dont leave em nothing to work on
You can raise your arm, you can wiggle your hand
And you can wave goodbye to the frozen man

I know what it means to freeze to death
To lose a little life with every breath
To say goodbye to life on earth
To come around again
Lord have mercy on the frozen man
Lord have mercy on the frozen man

-James Taylor


39 posted on 01/28/2009 7:54:08 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: dusttoyou; Vietnam Vet From New Mexico; ForGod'sSake
grieving widow

Looks more like the shooter to me...

40 posted on 01/28/2009 7:55:55 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives!!!)
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