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Legal Expert Claims that Unborn Babies are Really Chimpanzee
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/29/08 | LifeSiteNews

Posted on 03/02/2008 1:38:07 PM PST by wagglebee

MEXICO, February 29, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A former attorney general and human rights commission chairman is claiming that unborn children in the earliest stages of development are not human, and are in fact chimpanzees.

Dr. Jorge Carpizo McGregor claims that "for the topic of abortion, there are very important scientific advances that prove that the DNA of chimpanzees is 99 percent identical to that of a human being. The difference between ourselves and chimpanzees is one percent, this quantity that makes the difference is the central nervous system."

"Before twelve weeks of gestation, there is no cerebral cortex, that is to say, there is no human being, the cortex is formed around the 25th week. This is a very important piece of information because those who attack abortion say that a human being is being killed and it isn't true."

"That's ridiculous," said Dr. John Shea, medical advisor to Canada's Campaign Life Coalition. "This is the most ignorant remark I think the man could possibly make. He must be totally ignorant of science."

Dr. Shea was shocked to hear that a prominent attorney was claiming that the only difference between a chimpanzee and a human being was in the nervous system. "That's so ignorant that I don't know where to begin," he told LifeSiteNews. "The organism is different in every single way" he said, and added that "a person is different in a trillion different biochemical ways. It's ludicrous, ludicrous. It's on it's face, ridiculous."

In reality, the nervous system begins to form well before the 25th week. During the first four weeks, the neural tube begins to form, which is the beginning of the central nervous system. During the fifth week, the brain begins to grow.

Carpizo, who is a former attorney general of Mexico and former head of Mexico's human rights commission, has acted as a legal advisor to the government of Mexico City, which is defending its recent legalization of abortion before the nation's Supreme Court. The current head of the National Human Rights Commission is one of the parties disputing Mexico City's law. A decision on the matter is expected within days.

Carpizo is planning on putting forth his ideas in a new book, which he will introduce in March, called "Human Rights: Abortion and Euthanasia".


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: abortion; dna; genetics; itsaboutadvocacy; jorgecarpizomcgregor; moralabsolutes; notrightvswrong; proaborts; prolife
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"Before twelve weeks of gestation, there is no cerebral cortex, that is to say, there is no human being, the cortex is formed around the 25th week. This is a very important piece of information because those who attack abortion say that a human being is being killed and it isn't true."

What an idiot!

1 posted on 03/02/2008 1:38:08 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 03/02/2008 1:38:35 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 03/02/2008 1:38:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
A former attorney general and human rights commission chairman is claiming that unborn children in the earliest stages of development are not human, and are in fact chimpanzees.

And with two human parents, they magically turn into chimpanzees and then *poof* magically turn back into humans again as they grow!

What a freaking moron. This guy ought to be disbarred and any medical professional who supports this lunacy should be stripped of his license to practice.

4 posted on 03/02/2008 1:40:31 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: wagglebee

Some folks will stop at nothing to legitimize abortion.


5 posted on 03/02/2008 1:40:37 PM PST by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: wagglebee

In his own gestation, he is correct.


6 posted on 03/02/2008 1:40:39 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: wagglebee
Well, if that’s true, perhaps the pro-life movement can work together with the WWF and other animal-lovers organizations to protect the Chimpanzee from being killed! /s
7 posted on 03/02/2008 1:41:37 PM PST by paudio (Conservatism: like it or not, it's a word with many meanings.)
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To: wagglebee

Socalist/humanist agenda sinks to a new low.


8 posted on 03/02/2008 1:42:02 PM PST by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: wagglebee

Jorge Carpizo McGregor is a Chimpanzee.


9 posted on 03/02/2008 1:42:27 PM PST by SolidWood (All conservative effort into retaking Congress!)
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To: wagglebee
Carpizo is planning on putting forth his ideas in a new book, which he will introduce in March, called "Human Rights: Abortion and Euthanasia".

In other words...Human Rights: How to legally commit Murder. How does he defend Euthanasia...once one gets so sick the cerebral cortex disappears, and therefore turns them *back* into chimpanzees?
10 posted on 03/02/2008 1:43:09 PM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("Don't give up your ideals, don't compromise, don't turn to expediency..."Ronald Reagan, 1976)
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11 posted on 03/02/2008 1:45:11 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: wagglebee

The DNA of an unborn human baby is 100% human.


12 posted on 03/02/2008 1:46:39 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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I guess he’s still a chimp if that’s his idea of critical thinking.


13 posted on 03/02/2008 1:49:52 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: wagglebee

How bizarre. It’s almost impossible to believe that anyone could say something this incredibly ignorant with all of the scientific discoveries to date.


14 posted on 03/02/2008 1:51:34 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
All higher vertebrates have a distinct cerebral cortex. Chimpanzees have quite a large one.

And unborn person has a visible cerebrum by the 4th week of prenatal development.

By the twelfth week, the child's head comprises half of his total weight and the brain is highly articulated.

15 posted on 03/02/2008 1:52:25 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wagglebee

He is correct, as regards attorneys.


16 posted on 03/02/2008 1:52:27 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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Whenever somebody says the unborn baby isn't human, I'm tempted to get a real solemn look on my face and say, in shocked tones, "Oh, I'm so sorry. Tell me, what... what was the father?"

But in all seriousness, this undercuts the very concept of human rights, human dignity, even human identity. From this guy's perspective, human identity is an intermittent thing, existing only when a fully-loaded cerebral cortex is optimally developed, active, and manifest, and fading like a light on a rheostat whenever you are not at the highest pitch of documented thinkitude.

Everybody is at low level of cogitation when inattentive, distracted, or even dreaming. I guess your humanness just fades and flickers on and off like that.

My advice to this Mexican politico: never, never fall asleep. If you do... (visualize cutting motion with finger across the neck.)

17 posted on 03/02/2008 1:54:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: wagglebee
If this is true than the following must be true

1. Human embryos can be transplanted into female chimps and a chimp should grow

2. Some time in gestation we lose a pair of chromosones

3. We also lose opposible toes, massive muscle girth, freakishly long arms, body hair, red butts, and 100s of other things.

18 posted on 03/02/2008 1:56:10 PM PST by LukeL
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Yeah, the abortionistas had better think twice before adopting this line of thinking. After all, you can get in trouble for killing a chimpanzee.


19 posted on 03/02/2008 1:56:38 PM PST by Hunton Peck (Thou shalt not take the name Hussein in vain. -- Saint Michelle of Bama)
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To: wagglebee; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Coleus
What an idiot!

That's much lighter a name than I'd use for him.

On the surface, this sounds like such a joke, I looked to see if it was written on scrappleface or the Onion or some such.

Then you read this claim and try to apply it to their twisted logic. And realize that the Culture of Death is so committed to their cause, so completely devoted to the slaughter and cannibalism of our children that this freak's interpretation will be embraced and distributed among the least educated to completely remove the human aspects of the nascent child. It's very easy to convince a scared pregnant girl that even though the stick turned blue, not only is it not a baby, yet, it's not even human, yet. No brain! No pain! No worries.

We've been through this before: "a mass of cells", "a clump of tissue", "IT isn't alive until IT's born", etc. The sentient human to some of these types (anti-messiah BHO stands out in front on this, without apology, doesn't he) doesn't even exist at birth... they'd take it well beyond the formative years. Wait, they have: eugenics & euthanasia.

I am curious though, how the animal activists will take this. As coleus has reminded us many a time, Roe and the Endangered Species Act were both thrust upon us in 1973. Now that the unborn child has been not compared to, but designated as, an endangered species... uh?

20 posted on 03/02/2008 2:00:32 PM PST by cgk
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