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Extra large rifles - anybody own one?
vanity ^ | 02/04/08 | self

Posted on 02/04/2008 10:38:28 AM PST by Mac1

My first posting - think I've done everything right but if not, feel free to delete, move, whatever's appropriate.

Came across this site of a firm making 20mm rifles amongst others and found that here in the UK, they're still legal. OK,OK, it would entail me moving house because the ranges at which I could shoot one are 100miles+ away and I would have to spend a lot of my savings and I'm currently in between jobs, so not currently feasible. But the prospect of owning one did cross my mind...and they are tempting...

Anyone own one of these/similar? What are they like to own/shoot?


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To: wjcsux
Try a .460 Weatherby Magnum on for size. I have heard of shooters receiving permanent injury from the recoil. I shot one once, that was enough.

My father had a .600 Nitro Express double rifle when I was growing up. No recoil pad, talk about HURT. I could never bring myself to touch off that other barrel.

81 posted on 02/05/2008 11:52:38 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Eaker; Squantos
Plans?? I gotcher plans rights heah.
82 posted on 02/05/2008 12:03:40 PM PST by glock rocks (I used to think I was really smart. In fact, I used to be really smart. Now I have teenagers.)
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To: glock rocks

We have those.....that thing blew up on the 30th shot !....:o)


83 posted on 02/05/2008 12:06:24 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Mac1

That’s just the ammo bill after first weekend shoot in Texas ........add Beer, BBQ , Babes, Brasso (for the stripper poles)......add’s up quick.


84 posted on 02/05/2008 12:12:50 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: wjcsux
Cooper's "Baby", fired by yours truly:

Oh yes, it's "enough gun".

85 posted on 02/05/2008 12:18:37 PM PST by ctdonath2 (GWB wept for those who suffer. HRC wept for herself.)
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To: blackie

“Mac1 ~ it’s hard to believe that the U.K. has passed laws that prohibit or strictly control all private ownership of firearms.
I purchased one of these a couple of months ago, I guess that you wouldn’t be able to own one of these in the U.K.?”

Believe it. You are right regarding the M4 unless it was in 22lr/wmr - the Ruger 10/22 is legal, but any semi-auto rifle apart from calibre 22lr/wmr is illegal(banned since 1988). Alternatively they are legal as a straight pull bolt action and thus so configured are used in practical rifle shooting (like IPSC but with rifles). Still, there are bright points and this is one of them:

http://www.fcsa.co.uk/index.htm


86 posted on 02/05/2008 12:48:44 PM PST by Mac1
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To: ctdonath2

“For sale, $125,000, 90mm: “

The high price is because of the 1986 McClure Volmer act prohibiting sales of new class 3 illegal isn’t it?


87 posted on 02/05/2008 12:51:41 PM PST by Mac1
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To: Mac1
"Believe it. You are right regarding the M4 unless it was in 22lr/wmr - the Ruger 10/22 is legal, but any semi-auto rifle apart from calibre 22lr/wmr is illegal(banned since 1988). Alternatively they are legal as a straight pull bolt action and thus so configured are used in practical rifle shooting (like IPSC but with rifles). Still, there are bright points and this is one of them:"

That is a bright point and hard to believe.

I have two Ruger 10/22's with Volquartsen Trigger Assemblies, those would be legal over there.

I knew that the U.K. has passed some anti-gun laws some years ago, which is hard to understand, considering its vast and rich firearms manufacturing, ownership and history.

88 posted on 02/05/2008 1:26:34 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Mac1
"Believe it. You are right regarding the M4 unless it was in 22lr/wmr - the Ruger 10/22 is legal, but any semi-auto rifle apart from calibre 22lr/wmr is illegal(banned since 1988). Alternatively they are legal as a straight pull bolt action and thus so configured are used in practical rifle shooting (like IPSC but with rifles). Still, there are bright points and this is one of them:"

That is a bright point and hard to believe.

I have two Ruger 10/22's with Volquartsen Trigger Assemblies, those would be legal over there.

I knew that the U.K. has passed some anti-gun laws some years ago, which is hard to understand, considering its vast and rich firearms manufacturing, ownership and history.

89 posted on 02/05/2008 1:34:17 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Mac1

Actually not. It was only fully automatic weapons that were restricted in 1986. The 90mm is a “destructive device” (and in this case I’d say the BATF actually is accurate) and their supply has been limited for some time. I think that something was done in 1968 to limit the supply, because until then you could purchase WWII PAK 37s and PAK 41s in several calibers (37mm & 42mm I think I remember seeing advertised)


90 posted on 02/05/2008 2:16:34 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: blackie

“That is a bright point and hard to believe”

These rifles are legal (for now)because of their mechanism (not semi auto) and the fact that there is no upper limit on calibre for rifles. They have attracted some attention though of those who would like to prohibit them (see the bit on the site about anti materiel weapons), so I don’t know for how much longer we can own them. Something to bear in mind when paying $10,000+ for a rifle and I got burned 10 years ago when I had to export my handguns because they were banned.

“I knew that the U.K. has passed some anti-gun laws some years ago, which is hard to understand, considering its vast and rich firearms manufacturing, ownership and history.”

This explains things well as far as I can see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom


91 posted on 02/05/2008 2:21:46 PM PST by Mac1
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To: from occupied ga

“Actually not. It was only fully automatic weapons that were restricted in 1986. The 90mm is a “destructive device” (and in this case I’d say the BATF actually is accurate) and their supply has been limited for some time.”

I stand corrected:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act


92 posted on 02/05/2008 2:35:56 PM PST by Mac1
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To: Mac1

BUMP


93 posted on 02/05/2008 3:49:30 PM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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To: Mac1

Must have .... MUST HAVE :)


94 posted on 02/05/2008 3:54:32 PM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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To: Billthedrill

Score


95 posted on 02/05/2008 4:55:47 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Mac1
If you want exotic, you are going to have to pay for ammo. Here in the states, .50 BMG ammo is around $4 per round (or two pounds for you per bang). I can't imagine what 20mm ammo might sell for. A lot.

I have settled for a .45-70 Marlin and a single-shot Harrington and Richardson. I can get .45-70 ammo from around $1 per round if I reload or find bargains.

It isn't really exotic but it sure is a big bang, with a big fireball and lots of recoil, if you use hot ammo. It approaches the .458 Winchester magnum.

96 posted on 02/05/2008 5:01:14 PM PST by Sender (Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.)
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To: NCC-1701
Is that "Atomic Annie"? I once worked across the street from Atomic Annie at Ft. Sill...right next to the "jail" where, I believe it was Sitting Bull, was kept prisoner.

Big gun! :)

97 posted on 02/05/2008 9:57:44 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Sender

“If you want exotic, you are going to have to pay for ammo. Here in the states, .50 BMG ammo is around $4 per round (or two pounds for you per bang). I can’t imagine what 20mm ammo might sell for. A lot.”

Prices for 50bmg here.

http://fcsa.co.uk/uk_suppliers.htm";

TBH think I’ll have to turn down the prospect on this occasion - too much of a jump.


98 posted on 02/06/2008 1:45:08 AM PST by Mac1
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To: Mac1

Thanks!


99 posted on 02/06/2008 9:30:06 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie

“Thanks!”

No problem; some advice: be careful about whom to rely on to defend gun rights. Some of the most ignorant, bigoted people around are...other shooters who don’t own the same types of firearms that you do and cannot see any reason why you should have them. They also think their property will be safeguarded if you lose yours. :-(


100 posted on 02/06/2008 9:50:25 AM PST by Mac1
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