Link from NationalTerrorAlert.com
An unexpected visit by a Chinese Submarine that went undetected in the middle of a Pacific Ocean Naval exercise and came extremely close to the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk, has American military chiefs looking for answers.
The sub was apparently able to slip past at least a dozen U.S. warships, two U.S. submarines and a vast array of advanced technology, which failed to detect it.
When the Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, they take the security of the aircraft carriers very seriously. At least a dozen warships are used to provide a physical guard, and using advanced technology they are able to detect and deter any potential intruders.
By the time the Chinese sub surfaced, the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk, a 1,000ft. super carrier with 4,500 military personnel on-board.
According to senior NATO officials, the incident caused a sense of sudden fear in the U.S. Navy, as officials realized the seriousness of the encounter. The U.S. apparently had no idea just how sophisticated Chinas fast-growing submarine fleet had become, or that they even posed such a threat.
Analysts believe that China was sending a message to the United States and the West by demonstrating their rapidly growing military capability to threaten foreign powers that might try to interfere in their own backyard.
The U.S. Navy and Nato are now forced to re-think their strategy, and reconsider the level of threat posed from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.
Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced
When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.
At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.
That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.
Uninvited guest: A Chinese Song Class submarine, like the one that sufaced by the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk
American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.
By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.
According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.
The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.
One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.
The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.
Battle stations: The Kitty Hawk carries 4,500 personnel
The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.
And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.
According to the Nato source, the encounter has forced a serious re-think of American and Nato naval strategy as commanders reconsider the level of threat from potentially hostile Chinese submarines.
It also led to tense diplomatic exchanges, with shaken American diplomats demanding to know why the submarine was "shadowing" the U.S. fleet while Beijing pleaded ignorance and dismissed the affair as coincidence.
Analysts believe Beijing was sending a message to America and the West demonstrating its rapidly-growing military capability to threaten foreign powers which try to interfere in its "backyard".
The People's Liberation Army Navy's submarine fleet includes at least two nuclear-missile launching vessels.
Its 13 Song Class submarines are extremely quiet and difficult to detect when running on electric motors.
Commodore Stephen Saunders, editor of Jane's Fighting Ships, and a former Royal Navy anti-submarine specialist, said the U.S. had paid relatively little attention to this form of warfare since the end of the Cold War.
He said: "It was certainly a wake-up call for the Americans.
"It would tie in with what we see the Chinese trying to do, which appears to be to deter the Americans from interfering or operating in their backyard, particularly in relation to Taiwan."
In January China carried a successful missile test, shooting down a satellite in orbit for the first time.
Duncan Hunter SO GETS IT! He's been warning us about the Chinese for years. No other presidential candidate has the foresight that Duncan Hunter does! America NEEDS Duncan Hunter as POTUS!
Hunter on China PING!
BTTT!
Adm. Tim Keating, the U.S. Pacific Command leader, told reporters during his visit to China last month that while building and operating a carrier battle group is complex, the United States is willing to help.
"We would, if they choose to develop [an aircraft-carrier program], help them to the degree that they seek and the degree that we're capable, in developing their programs," Adm. Keating said.
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U.S. may share missile info with China
WASHINGTON, June 4 (UPI) -- The United States would "seriously" consider sharing technology and missile warning intelligence with China, (Secretary of Defense Gates) the U.S. defense chief said Sunday.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846099/posts
...good post. More people need to know as to what’s going on. Duncan Hunter won’t give China any reason to get hostile, but he won’t give the PLA everything it wants.
Duncan Hunter is the one we need to lead our country in these next 8 yrs. because these are going to be very tenuous. We need a man who is sure of himself and knows how to lead. Duncan Hunter has shown time and time again he is that man.
These commies have pissed me off with their refusal to allow our minesweeps to enter Hong Kong during the recent cyclone. Her is a note I just sent to their public image site:
Hello, As a lifelong mariner an prior U.S. Navy sailor I am disgusted at your government’s behavior in refusing a Port of Refuge request by our U.S. Navy minesweepers when a tropical cyclone was bearing down on them. Shame on you. Your hissy fit put my fellow sailors in danger.
I have lately been shopping for a metal lathe for my shop and was in the process of ordering a Grizzly lathe, which is Made In China. However, in response to your egregious act I vow to never again buy a product from your COMMUNIST country. I will instead buy a lathe from the FREE, INDEPENDENT country of TAIWAN. I will also include in the advertisement for my company a statement detailing China’s behavior and encouraging those reading it to BUY TAIWANESE.
Reap what you sew, commie pigs.
Disrespectfully, Dana *&$#^$^
We can thank the Chinese for exposing this weakness now instead of waiting until there is actual shooting. You can bet the Navy is pulling out all the stops to figure out how to counter this threat.
By the way, thanks, too, to all the environmentalists who have been protesting the Navy’s testing of new, sophisticated sonar systems because they might give a whale a migrane.
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Anybody want to bet we were tailing the Chinese sub ?
Duncan Certainly got dissed at the debate last night. One look at his record, and there is no doubt that he is the candidate of choice for anyone claiming to be conservative.
Thankfully he will get a say on this. I have an interview scheduled with Mr Hunter on Monday, Dec 10th, at 8pm eastern time. He will be appearing on my Internet Radio Show, The Politics Cafe @ www.hernco.com and www.asi-online.org/ . I do plan to ask some of the same questions that Duncan Hunter should have been allowed to answer in this debate.
Anyone wishing to participate in the show, can also come to the Politics Lobby 4 Secure Our Borders Chat room on Paltalk. ( Found under Social Issues and Politics)(stop by anytime, conservative discussion always welcomed), I guarantee, that some good questions will be asked, and that Mr Hunter will show why he is the best choice for the President of the USA.
Thanks, Mark , host of the Politics Cafe
Only ONE candidate is talking about China BUMP!
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You see this follow up to the Chinese sub yet?
You all see this yet?