Posted on 04/15/2007 10:03:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Introduction
Microsoft is understandably touting its new Windows Vista operating system with as many superlatives as they can fit in a sentence but the response from consumers seems to be rather muted so far. Half a billion in marketing dollars can certainly make a flashy entrance but for all the publicity generated in the weeks leading to its 30th January release date, there hasn't exactly been the kind of maniacal rush that we had witnessed when tech gadgets like the new Sony PlayStation 3 were initially released.
There wasn't even a decent queue of any sort when CompUSA organized a midnight launch in the US , a somewhat disappointing turnout compared to the success of previous versions of Windows. Similarly in Singapore, there was no hint of a queue when we turned up for the official launch
, in stark contrast with the Windows XP launch here in 2001, which saw shoppers queuing for up to six hours to get their hands on it. It seems that despite the massive publicity promoting Vista's new features, the public is not biting yet.
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So how would your ageing systems perform when upgraded to Windows Vista? Would you be better off continuing with an existing operating system like Windows XP? To answer these questions and more, we have configured three systems that span the performance spectrum from an Athlon XP to the latest Intel Core 2 Duo processor. But before we see how they fare running Windows Vista, let's first review the 'minimum' system requirements listed by Microsoft.
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Must say, you have a way with words that cuts right to the chase. Good call...
I just formatted a 1 Terabyte drive with a Mac OSX using FAT32 for use on a Linux based Security DVR... worked fine. Wound up with 968 GigaBytes free. The Linux on the DVR would not format it. It said it did, but then the backup routines would not see it as formatted.
> I just formatted a 1 Terabyte drive with a Mac OSX using FAT32 for use on a Linux based Security DVR... worked fine. Wound up with 968 GigaBytes free. The Linux on the DVR would not format it. It said it did, but then the backup routines would not see it as formatted.
Hmmm. You're quite right -- my Mac 10.4.9 system just formatted an 80GB FAT-32 volume perfectly happily. I do remember perhaps two years ago, running into a 32GB limitation on an older Mac at work -- that's what I recalled, and since I hadn't had occasion to format a large FAT32 partition on my home Mac, I falsely assumed it was still a limitation. I was mistaken -- thanks for the update!
My filesystem reference says that the upper limit on a FAT32 volume is 2TB (I mistakenly recalled it as ~500GB). I should have looked it up before commenting. Thanks again!
I don't know about the DVR with the embedded Linux -- odd that it won't see its own created volume from the backup routines. No experience with those boxes. Sounds like it didn't really do the format correctly.
The user interface on the DVR is very limited... in the "format" section, it said "wait" for about 20 seconds, and then said "Format successful". Go to the backup section and it reports that the HDD is present in the USB port but it also says "Needs Format". I left the drive formatting on the Mac overnight after I got tired of waiting for it to finish the format. It was ready when I got back in the AM.
And don't forget, your Mac has a full, stateful, professional-level firewall called ipfw. It operates off of a complicated yet powerful rule set like any serious firewall does. You probably haven't edited the rule set directly, but doing stuff like setting up a web share automatically adds the rules to enable it for you.
Speaking of file systems, I rather like NTFS, as it has only gotten corrupt on me a couple of times. This isn’t bad compared to my experiences with FAT and FAT32. But Apple got a big boost a while back when it hired the creator of BeOS’s famously excellent BFS journaling file system. He put some serious journaling into HFS.
No. I am not a paid employee of anyone associated with MEPIS. I am just a VERY satisfied end user.
I don't know what linux message boards you go to. Are you sure you don't login to some time machine that transports you back about 6 years? Mepis, Ubuntu,Suse, and Mandriva all have pretty good boards for newbies (in that order of helpfulness). I hear that PC linux is good, too, but have no experience with it. MAN PAGES? Sheesh. I don't know anywhere you get recs for those. Although, if you are trying to learn linux from Slackware, Gentoo, or Red Hat, you probably have jumped in over your head, to be frank. Like a kid in HS wanting to learn basic physics and walking into a discussion forum full of engineers and PhDs discussing the finer points of weaponry re: laser optics. Start easy.
I’m in the same boat. I was going to buy a new desktop, but I don’t want Vista. I saw Dell advertising a laptop where you could pay extra to backgrade to XP...
Nah, real men use the toggle switches on the front panel of the rack, and memorize the boot loader code in octal.
BTW, although I'm being a little facetious, the above is true. After a few years on a Burroughs 5500 mainframe, I learned minicomputer programming on a PDP-8e (c. 1974), with front panel switches (grouped in octal), and yes, you had to manually toggle in the boot loader just to get to where you could run the paper-tape reader (on the ASR-33 teletype console), which would load the -main- loader, with which you would load the line editor (a scaled-down version of TECO), to edit your PDP-8 assembly program; then you'd load the assembler...
Ah, those were the days...
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Duke Nukem is not the subject of my post, sillyass is.
I never had any trouble using any of the Linux update programs, whether yum, apt, yumex, or pup.
I don’t understand what the heck you could be talking about. It is even easy, or should I say simple, to upgrade computers not on line using the rpm packages and yum -— and that, without resorting to help forums.
Some people just want to be able to pull off a poptab and drink their NewCoke, rather than hunt around for a bottle opener or a corkscrew, I guess.
LoL...
FAT32 w/32Kb clusters can handle up to a 2Tb partition. Max file size then is 4Gb. Of course, min.file size is then 32Kb (yuck)
I’m glad to hear some big players are holding out about Vista. I thought MS was declaring they weren’t going to support XP beyond 2006, though... That has to be affecting your decisions?
BTW, although I’m being a little facetious, the above is true. ...
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ROTFLMPO::: I verify your truthfulness here... I was doing the same on PDP-8s and SuperNova computers way way back in the 70s ... Ahhhh... those were the days!
Why would you use a cork screw on a can of New Coke? That doesn’t even make any sense.
Anyway OS means “Operating System.” Do you hunt around for a corkscrew or can opener to make your heart beat? To inhale or exhale?
Installing programs should be one step easy, not having to hunt down repos and read man pages written by psychotics suffering from hypergraphia. That’s just stupid.
Smart would be, download the program, install the program, use the program. That’s the whole point of computers, to use programs not fight the OS. With linux it is, hunt around for a few days and try to copy repos that other people post and then hunt around a little more and finally you install the program, more by magic then by any sort of logical process. Our engineer always jokes he has to sacrifice a chicken to get things to work in unix.
It’s only a joke but it would be much easier then the way linux actually works, which is not to in most cases. Which is why I always recommend linux to people fed up with Windows. I tell them every OS sucks and waists your time so you may as well go with the one that does it the best. Plus Mac users suck and you don’t want them in your peer group so it’s pretty much only a choice between linux and windows. Most linux users suck too but there’s three or four good ones out there, present company excluded, of course, so it’s not completely hopeless.
Windows users are more like real people so some suck some don’t. Some are good, some are evil. Whereas with Mac and linux you have a greater clumping of arrogant elitist people for some reason. The type that like to join cults to feel special. OS science will never progress until these people are isolated from the user base and someone starts making a real OS for real people. Probably at least 1000 years away from that, if not more.
Unless, you know, there’s instant overnight evolution, which I don’t think I’ve heard of. So pretty much 1000 years of linux still being unusable by real people, Mac users being smug and arrogant and “i told you so” (which always attracts lots of people /sarc) and the rest of the people just trying to install a program to get some work done.
No--that's ancient.
Linux users merely install and use. The install process includes the download (of the most recent version available).
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