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Time for a new political party [Good luck with all that - Zot!]

Posted on 12/19/2006 5:29:03 PM PST by 9999lakes

It may well be time for a new conservative political party. The republicans have failed, and failed big-time to deliver for conservative causes. They seem inclined to nominate CINO only like Rudy Guliani or John McCain, and neither of those candidates is gonna do one thing for conservative issues.

Said another way, the republicans are part of the problem, and no part of any solution.

But it IS time, to make substantive changes, and the GOP seems not to be part of them.


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To: Tim Long

I am horrified at the prospect of Rudy McRomney, but there is no one--NO ONE--in the GOP field who would be even remotely as bad as Hillary Clinton. Do not cast a vote that helps her and call yourself a patriot.


81 posted on 12/26/2006 5:45:24 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: 9999lakes; All

Thank you for getting rid of this nut. He's been under my skin for a while now. Glad he finally went over a cliff, LOL!

I will, however, miss being able to "ping" him to Nancy Pelosi's daily foolishness. :(


82 posted on 12/26/2006 5:46:57 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Spiff; _Jim
Tell that to the Republican Party. Ever heard of the Whig Party?

Wow, it's only been about 160 years! Gimme a break.

83 posted on 12/26/2006 5:47:45 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: TheKidster
That's what i felt like when I'd call thier offices.

Man, that sucks. My Congressman's office treats me very well.

84 posted on 12/26/2006 5:49:25 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: hole_n_one
It's a good thing then that we have your dumbass post to save our homeland.

LOL!

85 posted on 12/26/2006 5:51:00 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: 9999lakes
to hell with you...literally.

Wow, you think someone should be burned alive for eternity for disagreeing with you! You are so reasonable and wise!

You should be the recipient of a Thorazine suppository.

86 posted on 12/26/2006 5:56:51 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: AmishDude
It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.

[Uproarious applause] YES! How in the world can people not get this?

87 posted on 12/26/2006 5:59:26 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: 9999lakes
All your Nukes ARE Belong to Us!!!!

ZOT!

PWND!

88 posted on 12/26/2006 6:02:56 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Mr. Silverback
Do not cast a vote that helps her and call yourself a patriot.

I'm afraid voting only Republican does not make you a patriot. I hunt RINOs, not vote for them. People are too focused on the immediate election. It really doesn't matter if we avoid a Dem if we're just installing someone who won't advance the conservative cause.

I couldn't call myself a patriot if I let the Republican party know it had a monopoly on my vote no matter who it ran. Then why it do anything I wanted? What has the zombie allegiance to the Republican party left us with? John Paul Stevens, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, 33 years of the legal murder of 47 million children and open borders.

If the GOP wants to ignore conservatives, we will have to make them take notice. Conservatives should have been furious that the party took their money and threw the election away. Throwing my vote away would be to not vote or to hand the GOP my vote. I'm happy to vote for any Republican conservative. But when they don't put one up, I have to vote Constitution Party.

By the way, Obama's all but sure to get the nomination, not Hillary, which is an even darker prospect.

89 posted on 12/26/2006 6:20:23 PM PST by Tim Long (Merry Christmas, Michael Newdow! Merry Christmas, Richard Dawkins!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

However, I want to reform the GOP. But if we were able to, the notion of Guiliani getting the nomination would have been shot down as soon as he announced the exploratory committee.


90 posted on 12/26/2006 6:34:52 PM PST by Tim Long (Merry Christmas, Michael Newdow! Merry Christmas, Richard Dawkins!)
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To: Tim Long
It really doesn't matter if we avoid a Dem if we're just installing someone who won't advance the conservative cause.

That's what you don't get. We're talking about the difference between electing a person who isn't going to advance conservatism and a person who is downright evil. Sure, I'm no fan of libs, but are Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney gleefully evil? Would either of them fiddle while the U.S. was attacked, like Hillary and her hubby? The answer to both questions is "no."

I couldn't call myself a patriot if I let the Republican party know it had a monopoly on my vote no matter who it ran.

That's a self-serving way to cast the question. Try this: Can you call yourself a patriot if you cast a vote that helps a Marxist and a traitor get into the Oval Office?

As for sending messages, every time we social conservatives send the message to the GOP that we will throw our vote away if we don't get who we want no matter how disgusting, unfit and evil the resulting Dem president wil be we send them the message that they might as well just run a RINO so they can get some swing voters. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

What has the zombie allegiance to the Republican party left us with?

OK, let's say that in 2008 10% of the electorate follows your lead and votes CP. What's the result? President Hillary. How many dead babies then? How many lib morons on the SCOTUS? The re-election of Bush got us Roberts and Alito; the election of Hillary will get us another Ginsburg.

By the way, Obama's all but sure to get the nomination, not Hillary, which is an even darker prospect.

First, there's not a bloody chance in the world. One term in the Senate is not going to get this guy anywhere. Second, presumably you're willing to have him as a President instead of Rudy Giuliani. How very wise--that'sll really advance conservatism.

91 posted on 12/26/2006 7:05:06 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: Tim Long
But if we were able to, the notion of Guiliani getting the nomination would have been shot down as soon as he announced the exploratory committee.

Keep on accepting the media's version of things regarding the Republican field. After all, they have no ulterior motives.

92 posted on 12/26/2006 7:06:24 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Maybe you're right. GOP it is.


93 posted on 12/26/2006 7:10:37 PM PST by Tim Long (Merry Christmas, Michael Newdow! Merry Christmas, Richard Dawkins!)
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To: MikefromOhio
The vehicle to get us where we want to go, is already there--it's called the Republican party. Absolutely nothing can be gained by "trying" to form a third party.

It's been tried again and again.

To have success you'd have to depend on the same people who now call themselves Republicans.

This is a pipe dream besides these "third party" candidates are a bunch of cowards. Why not try to entice them to joining the Republican party? Then we can get somewhere.

Why don't they want to help? They'd rather be able to stand before us all and pontificate that they're more moral than the rest of us.

How many of them have been elected to anything? How many of them might have been elected had they chosen to run as Republicans? How many Democrats have they been able to get elected?

94 posted on 12/26/2006 7:14:26 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: 9999lakes

What are you doing to help the situation?


95 posted on 12/26/2006 7:19:45 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: grellis
You don't like the GOP? Fine. Work to change it.

You got it!! Just imagine what might happen if we all worked together to improve the Republican party rather than sitting around whining about how it's not perfect.

96 posted on 12/26/2006 7:24:59 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: 9999lakes
Are you going to be out there working to get the nomination for someone else or would you rather whine about it?

I live in Iowa, where we have a lot of say in who the nominee will be.

If you lived here, I would tell you to get off your butt and get busy promoting the guy you want. It's not hard. They want your vote BADLY.

It's not going to take that many votes for a potential nominee to get in the top three.

Would you do it, or would you just howl about the results afterward?

97 posted on 12/26/2006 7:29:20 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: AmishDude
The advantage to starting a third party is that you can get dumb people to donate money to your campaign from which you can draw a salary.

Yea, and you never have to prove a thing or be accountable for anything as you know full well, you'll never be elected to anything. These third party candidates are COWARDS. Many of them would be holding offices right now if they had run as Republicans. They don't want to have to run the risk of actually being elected.

98 posted on 12/26/2006 7:33:43 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

If you want to know how third party financing works, at least in a broad sense, watch The Producers (the original, might as well be entertained while you're at it).


99 posted on 12/26/2006 7:37:37 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

Sorry to show my ignorance but what is "The Producers"?


100 posted on 12/26/2006 7:40:23 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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