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Dell laptop explodes
the Inquirer ^ | 21 June 2006 | Inquirer staff

Posted on 07/10/2006 9:21:04 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember

AN INQUIRER READER attending a conference in Japan was sat just feet away from a laptop computer that suddenly exploded into flames, in what could have been a deadly accident.

Gaston, our astonished reader reports: "The damn thing was on fire and produced several explosions for more than five minutes".

Should you witness such an event, his advice is, "Don't try anything courageous/stupid, stay away, away, away!"

"For the record, this is a Dell machine," notes Gaston. "It is only a matter of time until such an incident breaks out on a plane," he suggests.

Our witness managed to catch all the action in these amazing pictures.

"Fire extinguishers leave a mess on your suit and belongings; pack your stuff (if you can) and leave, leave, leave!" he advises.

We don't have any further details of the model of the computer in question. In light of the evidence, however, we'd suggest you avoid actually using a laptop on your lap. Ouch.


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KEYWORDS: 3peat; computer; duplicate; hatewhenthathappens; searchdell; whiskeytangofoxtrot; wtf; youregettingalawsuit
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To: FormerACLUmember

Perhaps the fellow at the next table had just received a "Mission Impossible" assignment.


41 posted on 07/10/2006 9:48:53 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: FormerACLUmember
I am no expert on what to buy... How about an Apple laptop?

I am a big fan of HP laptops. My first gave me no trouble for a year and half (at which point it was struck by lightning, which was not HP's fault); my current one has given me no trouble period.

42 posted on 07/10/2006 9:49:50 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I read that something similar happened last year only it was in a home and the laptop had been left on overnight. Those things can get really hot; that's why they sell those cooling pads for laptops now. They also suggested that you place your laptop on a solid surface where air can circulate underneath.


43 posted on 07/10/2006 9:55:16 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: JamesP81

Build it myself???????

Heck James...I still need to get my 13 year old son to set up the dvd or vcr if I want to watch a movie! :o)


44 posted on 07/10/2006 9:55:33 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Bob

Or maybe they tried to put Linux on it, and maybe the WGA has a "computer self-destruct mechanism" if you try to install Linux. :)


45 posted on 07/10/2006 9:59:06 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: Artemis Webb
Build it myself???????

Believe it or not, it's not quite as complicated as it used to be, although it's still important to make sure of part compatibility. If someone wanted to build one I'm pretty certain I could research and find compatible parts so I could tell them what to buy. Actually physically assembling the parts is pretty easy; everything is keyed so it all only fits one way. Seating the CPU with heatsink can be a tricky and getting all the case wires hooked up to the power button and hard drive status light can be annoying as well, but those are the only complicated parts.
46 posted on 07/10/2006 9:59:23 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: FormerACLUmember
I am no expert on what to buy... How about an Apple laptop?

Apple makes a solid machine, IMO.
47 posted on 07/10/2006 10:01:12 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Beavis : Oooooooooohhhhhhh........ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh.......ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh.......

Butt-head : Uh.....Beavis?! What the hell is your problem, Beavis! Dammit, I'm changing the channel!

Beavis : Butt-head, I'm telling you this only once. If you change the channel, I'll kick your ass.
48 posted on 07/10/2006 10:01:56 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: FormerACLUmember
I wonder if this incident will be parodied on Family Guy...maybe Brian The Dog could give his gay cousin Jasper and his new "husband" Ricardo a Dell laptop as a "1st anniversary" present, only for the laptop to blow up, killing Jasper and Ricardo. :)
49 posted on 07/10/2006 10:04:44 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: Bob
I can't help wondering if this laptop was being run with a genuine Dell battery or some cheap off-brand 'equivalent'.

The genuine Dell battery on my laptop was always a piece of crap. It lasted for about as long as it took to start the computer up and stayed charged long enough for you to shut down properly if you lost power. It finally died and I never replaced it.

50 posted on 07/10/2006 10:06:12 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Bigg Red
my pr0n!!" && What does that mean?

Oh, surely you get those annoying spam emails hawking pr0n (porn) and V1agra, right?
51 posted on 07/10/2006 10:06:14 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Man was made in the image of God, not pond scum)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

52 posted on 07/10/2006 10:26:02 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Man was made in the image of God, not pond scum)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I went against the advice to avoid HP and purchased a HP Pavilion laptop. I also purchased the premium service plan for the unit.

I'm disappointed with the battery's performance. It is only capable of illuminating the screen about 50% (my best guess) of what I get when it is plugged in.

I'm so afraid of having something spilled on it that I just leave it at my desk all the time.

Overall, however, I am impressed with the pavilion's performance, features and reliability. The HD widescreen is incredible. I can't comment on the Wi-Fi as I haven't hardly used it at all. I've got the card and the wireless firewall router, just don't find the need to use it as of yet.

This is my first laptop and I bought it at Best Buy. I always feel like they're skinning me when I go in to buy a high ticket item. The big torture is to decide to purchase the service plan.

I guess it's better to be safe than sorry.

53 posted on 07/10/2006 10:42:06 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: FormerACLUmember

Note to self: Do not plug Dell Laptop into 220v outlet!


54 posted on 07/10/2006 10:42:47 AM PDT by Doomonyou (FR doesn't suffer fools lightly.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Dude, you're getting PWN3D.
55 posted on 07/10/2006 10:50:50 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: petro45acp

oops...


"Looked like a C610" should have been D610


56 posted on 07/10/2006 11:03:35 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! ("On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" by Dave Grossman))
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To: JamesP81
You want a good computer? Build it yourself. Those machines always run better.

You know a source of laptop parts?? A case and power supply would be good.

: )

57 posted on 07/10/2006 11:09:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
It sounds like someone decided to save some bucks by not including a voltage-limiter on their Lithium-Ion batteries...

I was hoping someone more knowledgable would supply a correction but, if memory serves me right, that would be current limiting circuit....

58 posted on 07/10/2006 11:13:27 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Publius6961
I was hoping someone more knowledgable would supply a correction but, if memory serves me right, that would be current limiting circuit....

You're probably correct about the nomenclature (voltage vs. current).

That being said, I do have a fair amount of experience using lithium batteries in an extreme environment (electric R/C model airplanes. See: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209187).

If you charge a LI battery over 4.2v per cell, they'll puff & explode.

If you discharge a LI battery below 3.0v per cell, they'll puff & explode.

If you charge them at a rate higher than 1C (capacity of the cell(s)), they'll puff and explode.

If you puncture them or damage them, they'll puff and/or explode.

In short, lithium batteries are a lot more volatile than either nicad or nimh batteries and need to be treated with a certain measure of respect.

Most consumer-level LI batteries are sold with a protective circuit that prevents over/under voltage situations from occurring. Most third-party LI batteries are sold without this circuit, which is why the OEM pack costs $50 and the third party pack costs $30.

Where most people have problems with consumer-level LI batteries is when buying the cheap replacement batteries. These cheap replacement batteries do not have the protective circuitry which prevents over/undervoltage problems. Hence, the news stories of cell phones exploding while in use, being dropped, etc.

Below is a photo taken during just such an event where a hobby-level Lithium polymer (really Lithium Ion Polymer) battery was deliberately charged at a higher voltage.


59 posted on 07/10/2006 11:33:16 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; Publius6961
Below is a photo taken during just such an event where a hobby-level Lithium polymer (really Lithium Ion Polymer) battery was deliberately charged at a higher voltage.

Correction:

This photo shows a battery deliberately charged at a voltage higher than 4.2v.

In short, LI batteries are sensative to both voltage and current. Unlike a nicad, which will simply *pop*, a LI battery ignites. Several hobbyists have had their cars/trucks burned to the ground when charging their batteries inside their vehicle. While no one has lost their house, several have come close.

If you go down the thread to which I linked in the previous post, you can see videos of the process. The dense white smoke generated prior to the fire is both toxic and corrosive.

60 posted on 07/10/2006 11:39:37 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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