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WinHEC: Microsoft moving to 64 bit only, says Gates(yet another Vista delay)
IT World Canada ^ | 24 May 2006 | Jeff Jedras and Martyn Williams

Posted on 05/25/2006 7:28:29 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

While the beta 2 of Windows Vista is available, the consumer version of the new OS could be pushed back past the stated January launch date, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said at a news conference in Tokyo.

(Excerpt) Read more at itworldcanada.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bestofgoldeneagle; gates; microsoft; threadjester; vaporware; vista; windows; worstofiggle
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To: MadIvan
I will keep one Windows machine until Wine runs Star Wars: Empire at War, however.

You can try Cedega to run it. I use it to play Diablo II and a few other Windows-only games.

21 posted on 05/25/2006 9:38:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: MadIvan

Why DD? Suse is better.(IMHO of course) 10.1 just released :-P

^^^^^^^^^^^^I will keep one Windows machine until Wine runs Star Wars: Empire at War, however.^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Heh.... Windows is a great OS if you manage to keep it 100% isolated from the internet.


22 posted on 05/25/2006 9:39:15 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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To: Golden Eagle
No, he disagrees with me and thats fine. At least he understood what I meant so he could have an intelligent disagreement. You seem to be a little too slow to even get that far.
23 posted on 05/25/2006 9:39:52 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Golden Eagle; N3WBI3; All

N3wbi3 said:

^^^^^^^^Half gets it? why was it soo hard for you?^^^^^^^^^^

GE said:

^^^^^^^^LOL he actually agrees with me, and called out your BS on post 14.^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey hey HEY! HHHHEEEEYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's plenty of half to go around, no need for all of you to argue over me.

:-D


24 posted on 05/25/2006 9:41:55 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Windows is perfectly safe on the internet, from any website or attack. All you need is this, which provides a variety of additional benefits besides complete protection, including anonymity and SSL privacy of your traffic through your ISP.

http://www.anonymizer.com


25 posted on 05/25/2006 9:42:51 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

lol...


26 posted on 05/25/2006 9:45:43 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Well it's one of the beauties of Linux, that we can find flavours to suit our particular needs. I've used Live CD demos on my machines of various types, and Ubuntu suits my needs (and my hardware) best. :)

Eventually I am going to get a Core Duo laptop, and I will put SUSE on that, however - the model I have in mind, the Fujitsu Siemens Pi1536 and Suse are "happy together".

Regards, Ivan

27 posted on 05/25/2006 9:50:11 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^Windows is perfectly safe on the internet, from any website or attack. All you need is this^^^^^^^^^^

And this..

And this.....

And this..........

And this..............

And this....................

And this.............................

And this......................................

Why bother with that headache? Just use your computer. That's what I do.


28 posted on 05/25/2006 7:04:23 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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To: N3WBI3

:-)


29 posted on 05/25/2006 7:05:09 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. Apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Talking out your @$$ like usual. If Windows PC's weren't usable, 90% of users wouldn't be using them. With a good firewall proxy like anonymizer, almost nothing can get through. With free auto-updates from Microsoft, and a good A/V package, if anything does it's blocked. Pretty simple, actually.
30 posted on 05/25/2006 7:16:22 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Two words: exclusivity contracts.

That's the only reason why Windows ever came to be the ginormous behemoth that it is.

Though it is indeed hard to say, I'd guess that if MS didn't have an easy ride throughout the 90's on those contracts, other OS's, browsers, software suites, etc. (softwares) would have developed--which would have had two effects:

a.)Microsoft would have had to work even harder to compete with the makers of those other softwares for market share, which would have resulted in

b.)Windows being a more secure and better-designed operating system--with much less vulnerabilities. With MS having a near-monopoly literally at its fingertips, they knew they could get away with more and chalk it up to user problems.

Using Anonymizer won't help. All it does is conceal your tracks while you're surfing--and to bypass poorly-implemented web proxies.

However, Anonymizer does absolutely no good if you're dealing with a good firewall (e.g. N2H2's Bess), nor does it help provide protection from viruses.

Quite literally, it's the computer equivalent of using a slightly-torn piece of saran wrap in the bed. At best all you have is a false sense of security.

Not only have you been found to know absolutely nothing about *nix systems, you've shown a rather lacking knowledge in computer security...


31 posted on 05/25/2006 11:25:16 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: Golden Eagle; Halfmanhalfamazing
So windows is safe on the internet so long as you pass your web traffic through..
Hosting History
Netblock Owner IP address OS Web Server Last changed
NTT America, Inc. 8005 South Chester Street Suite 200 Centennial CO US 80112 168.143.113.10 Linux Apache/1.3.33 Debian GNU/Linux mod_layout/3.2.1 mod_perl/1.29 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e 6-May-2006

32 posted on 05/26/2006 5:27:50 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3

Ouch! That hurts!


33 posted on 05/26/2006 7:54:01 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Using Anonymizer won't help.

Hilarious! Name a single site you don't think I can get to and tell you what is there without getting infected by whatever they want to throw at me. Lay your best trap, and I'll go there with anonymizer running, and we'll see if they can hack me. This is your chance to finally for once back up your BS. Obviously, I'm not concerned LOL.

34 posted on 05/26/2006 8:35:35 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: N3WBI3

35 posted on 05/26/2006 8:36:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: N3WBI3

That seems to be their website IP, and no guarantee that information isn't being spoofed for security purposes anyway. Even if their customer proxies are using *nix, so what, so do most home router/firewalls. The point remains you can safely run Windows on the internet, else ~90% of users wouldn't be using it, and most don't even have a proxy like anonymizer.


36 posted on 05/26/2006 9:03:12 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Right because pointing to a website with your IP is the only vector to get a windows box compromised..
37 posted on 05/26/2006 10:57:48 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3

Well TCP/IP is your only protocol that's exposed to the internet, so if it's being carefully filtered to block everything other than text and images how else is a script going to get through?


38 posted on 05/26/2006 11:01:44 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: N3WBI3

Good Post...

Major pwnag3 around here...8^)


39 posted on 05/26/2006 2:20:16 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: Golden Eagle

When I was in high school, a bunch of us used Anonymizer to bypass Bess and access blocked sites.

Needless to say, there were a couple instances where the computers were out of order...

The fact is that you make it sound like all you need is to run Anonymizer on a Windows box and you'll be completely safe--when in reality, nothing could be farther from the truth.

I had a Windows laptop crash after using it--one of the things that drove me to Linux to begin with...


40 posted on 05/26/2006 2:23:07 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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