Posted on 05/08/2006 1:57:24 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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A committee said Monday that Duke University administration was slow in addressing the alleged rape involving members of the lacrosse team.
It said key administrators relied too heavily on initial reports from Durham police that the alleged victim "kept changing her story and was not credible."
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I had a friend in high school. He was the biggest guy at our school,athletically speaking. He as a gentle giant though. He was AA and had a huge crush on me, and i knew it, but he knew the feeling wasn't mutual, so he told people he was my body guard. He never tried to come on to me, was very polite and respective of women. He received a full scholarship the NCCU. Toward the end of his freshman year, he broke up with a girl he met there. Out of stupidity, I guess, he began dating her roommate on the sly. One day the ex came into the room and caught them in bed, and the girl starting screaming rape.
He spent 7 years in jail, even after defense attys showed the 2 had been dating.
To this day, I know he was innocent but he life was ruined!
AV at the hospital runs into a different set of law enforcement folks with substantially different training. A Duke University LEO and the hospital sexual assault specialist have a different reading-- Traumatized AV, major crime on Buchanan.
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Sorry but the above paragraph neglects certain facts. They woman was first taken to a rehab center. It was there she called rape and was transported to Duke Hospital. So she told the original police when faced with rehab she was raped.
This case has run off the rails because:
1. The police did not believe the woman.
2. Some at Duke believe any and all woman and hate white males even or especially those at Duke.
3. Once the feminazis at Duke started rallies and putting out pictures of the team members and the racial pimps chimed in, this case threatened a newly appointed DA's election chances. Add in that the DA too hates white males, ie a self hater, having a leftist background and that the families of the players do not vote in local elections.
4. The DA took the ball and ran with it, despite the evidence and now needs to justify his actions.
It really is this simple. It is this simple whether the woman was raped or not. There is not a case here. She is not a credible witness. Nifong better have a cooperating witness or DNA from sexual fluids taken from the victim that matches someone she IDed.
As we've all said before - won't matter in front of a Durham jury. The jury will "want" them to be guilty and factual evidence won't matter.
As we've all said before - won't matter in front of a Durham jury. The jury will "want" them to be guilty and factual evidence won't matter.
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It won't go before a Durham jury.
I also meant to add, this was a DURHAM JURY too!
I wouldn't take bets on that. It all depends on the judge. My older brother, the Federal District Judge, says changes of venue are rare rare rare. But if this case doesn't merit a change of venue then they might as well take that law off the books. And there's no guarantee that the jurors in the new venue will be more capable of analytical thought than those in the Durham jury pool.
Durham is a county that is 40% African-American, 40% white mostly associated with Duke and 20% other many associated with Duke. When it is moved to another county, even one with a similar racial split, lets say 45-45-10 or 47.5-47.5-5, half the pool will no longer have a huge percentage that starts off biased against the defendents. That is a vastly better jury pool.
Any place in North Carolina would be better than Durham. Perhaps not by much, but still better.
I was betting in an earlier thread that it would be Greensboro. I agree with your assessment of the advantages although they may be marginal.
I'm not sure whom to believe
According to this police report (thanks MF) taken supposedly at 1:22...
If I read it correctly she claimed rape at Kroger's, unless this report DATE/TIME is dated when the call came in and simply details the subsequent events not necessarily given at that paritcular time....
If you read it through again, you'll realize that she didn't claim rape at 1:22 am. i.e. "subsequent events not necessarily given at that paritcular time"
I reread your earlier post. I'm still hanging on to the hope that Nifong is an idiot, not a self-interested manipulator. Otherwise I'm right with you.
One thing is definately right. Duke University is in the bizarre position of having the most to lose if the Lax guys are innocent. The Prez is toast if things break the wrong way.
On my pro-AV Duke Police, anti-AV Durham Police reading Duke is in even more internal trouble. Your average Duke student will line up with a pro-woman agenda up to a point, but not to the point of covering up a blatantly false prosecution of a bunch of fellow students. There will be serious repercussions internally if the case collapses, as it currently seems likely to do.
The students are going to want to know what idiot fingered these guys for prosecution. If it is Nifong, fine. No problem that the Duke administration can't whine their way out of.
If Duke Hospital staff and LEO's are in front of this stuff, the Duke administration is going to have a miserable year caught between AV-believing feminists and fed-up students, parents, alumni and repressed anti-feminist faculty.
Can we dare to hope and pray it never reaches a jury?
I'm not sure whom to believe
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Well here are your choices:
1. She claimed rape at the Kroger despite being described as unresponsive there and the police took her to a drug rehab first and then later to Duke Hospital.
2. The police took an unresponsive woman to the rehab, she became more responsive and claimed rape and then the police took her to Duke Hospital.
The police on the scene are generally about preserving the crime scene. They will get yelled at by higher ups if they fail to do that. It seems to be a pretty easy call to me that verions 2 above is much more likely to describe the situation than version 1 above.
Can we dare to hope and pray it never reaches a jury?
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There are a number of ways that this can happen. I am not sure the probabilities of them:
1. Nifong now elected lets the case drop after it drops from the headlines. [This could happen under the threat of 3 below.]
2. The woman recants, refuses to along go along or can not go along.
3. Nifong is removed from the case by a judge and new prosecutor from out side Durham is assigned and drops the charges.
4. A judge throws out the IDs and dismisses the charges.
5. A judge dismisses the case before it goes to the jury because the prosecution fails to meet its burden.
Care to add some more reasons or assign probabilities to each of these?
Are judges in Durham elected or appointed?
Thanks JLS for laying the possibilities out so well.
Anything on Abrams today about the case??
Look at post #95-97 (I think those are the numbers) for my comments re Abrams.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1629063/posts
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My generation (and proximity to U Berkeley) received the first "free speech" graduates as teachers, given that we had "new" schools in an "organic" age.
The older established schools, with tenured teachers, were not launched nor readily assaulted by a Marxist nuclear "love" bomb. But I watched the sly manueverings, over the years, to remove very good teachers from their professions in order to make way for the Junior Pig Napoleons.
And so my own fight against the lies known as feminist ideology began in my highschool years. I've been a character witness many times over the years for men, sons, fathers, brothers, priests, male students falsely accused by females. I've taken into my home fathers who couldn't afford to make ends meet due the over high "alimony/child support payments". As well, I have sheltered also single moms and their children who were on the lam from bureacrats trying to take their children away due to Liberal and bogus "children at risk" (wrong foods, any gun in the home (locked or not), homeschooled, etc.) agenda saturated throughout the CA schools.
I have earned my persecution by the marxists.
Your friend has not and did not. Blessings.
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