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New York Post ^ | 4-18-06

Posted on 04/18/2006 8:23:39 AM PDT by floridaobserver

According to what Holloway's friends have told authorities, the blond-haired, blue-eyed van Cromvoirt was seen with their classmate after she left van der Sloot - the pals say they saw them in the Holiday Inn casino together. But when the casino's video surveillance tapes were turned over to police, investigators could find no sign of Holloway and van Cromvoirt, the source noted.

Van Cromvoirt's father is the security expert in charge of video surveillance at the hotel.

Aruban authorities are also scrutinizing a surveillance tape taken earlier on May 30 that shows Holloway arguing with a light-haired young man in a jewelry store in the Wyndham Hotel, according to the source.

They're trying to determine if the man is van Cromvoirt.

A source said police records indicate that "Natalee told her mom and others she was in love with a blond-haired, blue-eyed Dutch kid."

Holloway's mother assumed the youth was van der Sloot, though he has darker hair.

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To: floridaobserver

101 posted on 04/18/2006 10:47:37 AM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: surrey


Natalee falls for GVC early in the trip. JvdS sees Nat with GVC... maybe the 2 Aruban stud muffins had a little contest between them?

Last night on the island, GVC wants Nat to spend it with him. GVC gets peed off when she blows him off, saying she wants to be with her friends. Basically rebuffing him. There is the argument on tape...Maybe she/he had a tiff earlier and she wanted to distance herself from him.

She heads off with friends but Nat gets a bit tipsy and lets the Aruba night get to her. JvdS is waiting in the dark and takes advantage, like any good stud muffin would do.

JvdS leaves with Nat, GVC sees this, since he is close by and is really peed now. He feels stood up and shamed by another Aruban stud muffin and waits for her to return. Time passes and he gets more peed... waiting...waiting...

GVC knows of JvdS' reputation this further stokes him. When he sees her come back with GVC, he is 10 miles high with a jealous rage and confronts Nat in the hotel. Coincidentally, what shows next on tape is lost or covered up by the dad to protect his son.

Maybe GVC's dad even helped to hide the body..???

How is this for conspiracy theories...??

BTW, since JvdS' dad was a judge and GVC' dad was involved with security, did they know each other well from past dealings?

102 posted on 04/18/2006 11:03:48 AM PDT by bugsplat (Too much time on my hands to be normal)
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To: bugsplat

It does seem like GVC and van der Sloot colluded for some reason. They need to get something out of Steve Croes, since his discredited story seems to have given an alibi for both boys.

Van der Sloot's attorney claimed his client does not even know GVC. That seems like an easy thing to discredit if it's a lie. With so little factual evidence out there for the media to rehash, I would imagine that is going to be a tidbit of information that will very quickly be focused on and either proven or disproven.

103 posted on 04/18/2006 11:09:43 AM PDT by Burkean
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To: finnigan2
This kid's dad is head of security surveillance at the hotel

Hmmm.... did this give the kid some insight into where he could hide without being seen?

Surely every good son comes to work with daddy once in awhile... ?

He sure had the ability to work in the hotel shadows...
104 posted on 04/18/2006 11:12:01 AM PDT by bugsplat (Too much time on my hands to be normal)
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To: finnigan2

The video surveillance cameras at the Holiday Inn were not working that day . . how convenient!

105 posted on 04/18/2006 11:15:18 AM PDT by floridaobserver
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To: Burkean

Seems a bit hard to swallow that on a small island loaded with stud muffin wanna-bees, that these two guys never crossed paths..

I was from a small resort town of about 50,000 as a teen and I knew most (not all though) of the stud muffins who chased the vacationers...

These guys may not have been personally been friends, but they sure knew of each other...u can bet on that...

BTW, the other 2 who were detained early on were security guards? If so, this smells more like a cover up than u can ever imagine...

106 posted on 04/18/2006 11:17:11 AM PDT by bugsplat (Too much time on my hands to be normal)
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To: Sloth

I remember my older sister used to play Milton Bradly Mystery Date when I was a kid.

Lots of good looking guys in the game, but there was also geek named Poindexter as one of the elgibles.

Did Poindexter do it? that is the question.

107 posted on 04/18/2006 11:18:06 AM PDT by floridaobserver
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To: rattrap
I can just imagine the look on Greta's face, "Sixty more weeks of content!!!"

Not to mention a free trip to Aruba.
108 posted on 04/18/2006 11:20:19 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: MineralMan

"Team coverage?"..How bout Greta and Whoraldo--permanently assigned there?

109 posted on 04/18/2006 11:20:21 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: litehaus

Alan Colmes was given the choice of going to Iraq or Aruba on assignment for Fox News. Guess which one he chose?

110 posted on 04/18/2006 11:24:26 AM PDT by floridaobserver
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To: bugsplat

I'm amazed that Natalee's friends have not been able to shed more light on this mystery.

When my daughter was in H.S. and college she and her friends knew every intimate detail of each othere's lives.

Almost seems that Nat was a bit of a loner. The fact that she went off alone with Joran and the Kalpoes is odd to me. Heck, most girls, and women ,for that matter, don't even go to the restroom alone.

111 posted on 04/18/2006 11:26:00 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Hildy

Her mom said it didn't happen.

112 posted on 04/18/2006 11:33:30 AM PDT by TwoSue
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To: floridaobserver

interesting, isn' it, that Joran and the Kalpo Bros set up the two black security guards, while the security company owner's kid (may have) set up Joran and the Kalpo's .. fairly circular, wouldn't you say?

113 posted on 04/18/2006 11:36:56 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: FR_addict

Can you ping me to that? Or tell me what you know? I had actually begun to think that pretty much the whole island knows who does it and either they participate or turn and look the other way [ALE.]

114 posted on 04/18/2006 11:38:00 AM PDT by Froufrou
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115 posted on 04/18/2006 11:41:30 AM PDT by Woman on Caroline Street (Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.)
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To: surrey

I've always thought that the kids on the trip were not telling the whole story. Maybe they have been more forthcoming with Natalees parents and LE.

116 posted on 04/18/2006 11:42:46 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: floridaobserver

Oh please, will somebody confess to this crime so we can move on already to other more important news.

117 posted on 04/18/2006 11:48:30 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Froufrou
There's too much to give everything, but I'll repost the links I have again. There are summaries available, but you have to know what posters have accurate info and who is reporting rumors.

Some of the sites are conservative, some liberal, but most of these sites have listened to everyone who has something to say.

On the long Natalee thread on this site, I have been condemned to hell and much worse. Some posts were even deleted that were sent to me, because of abuse. I was very disappointed in the Free Republic crowd. Joran and the Kalpoes should never have been convicted in the press without both sides being presented. It wasn't until Joran was allowed to tell his story did we hear the other side. Now that Joe Tacopina has been able to obtain the police reports, we are finding out what evidence ALE has that points away from Joran and the Kalpoes. The security shirt was found about 8 days after Natalee disappeared.

Also, Like Joe T. says, I hope this new suspect gets fair treatment by our media.

This was just on FoxNews Alert.
19 year old suspect also suspected of drug trafficking.
118 posted on 04/18/2006 11:51:04 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

I was 100% convinced that Joran was guilty until I saw him interviewed. Unlike Scott Peterson, he wasn't cocky or smarmy. I wanted to despise the kid but couldn't.

119 posted on 04/18/2006 11:59:18 AM PDT by surrey
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To: twigs
You know I think she may have OD'ed on this date rape drug, too. If you do a search on that drug it's scary how easy someone can die from this drug.

This new dutch kid arrested didn't give Natalee this date rape drug, it was the other kid whose known for exactly doing this to young ladies. There are lots of questions now with this new kid coming into the picture.


120 posted on 04/18/2006 12:00:06 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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