Posted on 09/03/2005 5:42:27 PM PDT by putupjob
I see from New Orleans that when the social order breaks down, we are responsible for our own defense. I am planning on getting a firearm with the correct training that will be stashed away in a crawl space, never to be used unless a dire situation arises. The scum looters can come for me, that's fine, but I am going out in a blaze of glory.
I am seeking advice on what I should get. A handgun, a rifle? I'm sure there are big time gunners on freep and I could use some solid advice. Thanks.
If they're on your front porch, a 12ga. pump can't be beat. You'll hear them crap themselves when you pump a shell into it, because they'll know they're about to have a rendezvous with Jesus.
Hey! LOL
My youngest child is still not responsible enough to be trusted with firearms unsupervised, so I keep everything locked up. My pistol is in a small security safe bolted to the bedframe. The safe is keyed by four finger-contoured buttons, so I can open it in the dark. My shotgun is in the gun safe, I usually wind up getting it out when there's trouble (like when the police chased an armed robber into the woods back of our house . . . I put the kids in bed upstairs and sat in an alcove in the breezeway with the 16 ga. Browning in my lap. (The cops got to him before he got to me, he should thank his lucky stars because I was loaded up with No. 2.)
I did manage to discover how to put a lot of holes in a wide area, at a training session once. I inadvertently put a buckshot round into a shotgun with a rifled slug barrel. The spin imparted by the rifling produced a donut pattern in the target. My instructor sarcastically congratulated me on discovering a "hostage round" -- point gun at hostage and take out everybody around him
California checking in -- Remington 870/ 12 gauge.
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LOL! One of my fellow range instructors once told a young Marine to "get his face tight against" the butt of the Mossberg pump hew was fam firing, and when the whistle blew, the lad brought the butt up against his chin instead of his shoulder.
Ouch!
Interesting factoid. It appears civilization is a very thin veneer, indeed.
Range sergeant my husband knew used to show off by firing the M-14 off his chin and less mentionable places . . . it CAN be done . . . (so says my husband.) < g >
My Rem 870 disassembles into pieces that fit nicely into a suitcase or gym bag
I agre the 870 is a great weapon I also have one along with a Rem 1100 auto with 3 barrels. for a handgun I love my millieum 45
12 gauge pump. But practice with it regularly. And practice it in your mind, too... what you would do if forced to use it.
You're wrong on most counts. You can miss with a shotgun, and it will go through a wall and kill your neighbor.
Have you ever checked the pattern of your shotgun at cross-room range, say 7 to 10 yards? It's not very big. You can miss.
Have you checked the penetration of your load through two sheets of drywall at 7 to 10 yards? Drywall is not armor.
Try to find "Tactical Loads" for your 12ga, both slug and buckshot. Lower velocity and less recoil, but still a huge hole. You're shooting vermin accross a room, not a buck at 50 yards.
A pump shotgun does look and sound intimidating. That's why I have one by the door.
It will be even worse next time....the population in Southern California doesnt even speak the native tongue. Every kind of rumor eminating from who knows where will run rampant in media with 20 different languages.
Put me in the .12 gauge group.
Maybe one of those WWI Winchester trench guns.
I have a beautiful little .22 Buckmark for plinking. It's fun to shoot but does jam from time to time. I clean it as I understand the instructions to say.
Is there something I should do to make it jam less often? Probably once in 50 rounds.
Escape from a hotel full of looters
TOM MARTIN
A SCOT who survived Hurricane Katrina yesterday told how her hotel was taken over by armed looters as New Orleans descended into chaos.
Trainee teacher Cherie Smith, 23, from Paisley, Renfrewshire, described how gun-wielding locals became increasingly desperate for food and water in the catastrophic aftermath of the hurricane.
Smith and her friends Dawn Plunkett and Natalie Train, both from Edinburgh, only escaped the chaos and devastation in the city after a treacherous 30-hour road journey through flooded and blocked roads.
The arts and drama graduate finally returned yesterday afternoon for a reunion with her parents Matt, 46, and Lesley, 43, at Glasgow Airport.
Only a week earlier she had arrived in New Orleans with her friends, unaware of the storm that was about to hit.
The three young women and another friend, Anwara Uddin, 27, from London, had just finished a 10-week stint working as care assistants for children at Camp America in New York. They were looking forward to a holiday in New Orleans' famous French quarter, and also excursions into the swamps.
But within a few hours of landing they learned that the powerful hurricane was on course for the city.
The group were forced to shelter at the Baronne Plaza hotel after trying to flee - only to find all planes and trains cancelled. All the hire cars in the city were already taken.
For nine hours last Sunday Smith - who should have been celebrating her birthday - sheltered in a windowless room in the hotel as Katrina passed through. In the following days the group began to fear for their lives as fights broke out between locals who had also taken shelter in the downtown hotel.
A Jewish missionary couple working there warned the tourists to be on their guard, as food, water, and even candles became valuable commodities in the shattered community.
As the temperature soared to above 40°C, Smith and her friends hid from gun-toting vigilantes on the hotel roof, surviving on meagre rations of stale sandwiches and cold pizza. Their only lifeline with the world was a radio. They tried to attract rescuers' attention with 'Help' signs fashioned from bedsheets, and by reflecting sunlight towards passing helicopters with a small mirror.
But as the situation became increasingly fraught within the hotel, the Jewish couple managed to drive the women out through the flooded roads in a small lorry, after organising the evacuation of the other 250 guests in boats they secured from the Superdome stadium, which was under siege.
Smith and her friends heard of the reports of the rapes at the stadium as they fled the city on Wednesday.
Smith said: "The Jewish couple warned us there were crazy people in the hotel. Some of them had guns. Others were openly taking and selling drugs.
"We felt uncomfortable staying in our room. We heard arguments and fights. People were looting everywhere.
"Before the hurricane hit we had helped the staff make up sandwiches, but there was only enough for one half piece for every person.
"The staff kept going to the Superdome but the National Guard said they couldn't help. I later heard about the rapes and was relieved we were not evacuated there.
"We felt very lost. We didn't know what was going on."
The group, and another couple from New York, were driven to Baton Rouge. Plunkett and Train left the party there to meet relatives and are still to return to Scotland.
Smith continued her journey in the lorry with the Jewish couple to Atlanta, after learning there were no flights available elsewhere, and was evacuated home with the help of Camp America.
LOL...I have a K-bar for when the shi^ really hits the fan
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