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The Hobbit Hole XXII - ...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe
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Posted on 06/01/2005 7:12:04 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: HairOfTheDog

I know how that is...there have been times when our little $15 deductable was more than I could spend, so I know what you mean.

Well, drink lots of fluids but monitor your output too...if you're drinking lots but not "going" (or perspiring) lots, that's a bad sign and you don't want to continue drinking lots.

Also, mind those high salt foods...processed meats and such. They're high in sodium and that can cause you to retain.


6,101 posted on 06/30/2005 2:05:35 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Hmmm... headaches last week, now you're retaining water... sure you're not pregnant?


6,102 posted on 06/30/2005 2:07:50 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

I'm really fairly sure I'm not... and this particular retaining water issue has been going on some number of months, through many cycles.


6,103 posted on 06/30/2005 2:11:59 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

It does sound, however, like you've had alterations in your normal state of health. Those are always red flags, even if it's just your body can't process the sodium it used to could...

The do bear watching.


6,104 posted on 06/30/2005 2:15:30 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Lil'freeper

I gotta go to the store, I'm outta milk!


6,105 posted on 06/30/2005 2:30:48 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: 2Jedismom; Ramius
I know they do.... Even though I've often been pudgy, I've always been strong and able to work hard physically, and now it seems like I either get a cramp somewhere or I get tired easily.... muscle tired. Shoveling horse poo my back starts to hurt, mow the lawn or walk and I get leg cramps. And I've had that pulled tendon in the arch of my foot that hurts too, and I've just about had it with this body. The swelling ankles, really my whole lower leg, has been depressing. It's not super exaggerated, I'm normal if I wear tight socks like sup-hose, but as a woman it's just been really discouraging to my ego. I haven't wanted to talk about it.

Honestly, the causes of pitting edema (I didn't know how to look it up before you named it) are all pretty scary or depressing, depending on which emotion I decide to apply to it. BUT, I don't have any of the ~other~ symptoms of any of the major organ failures they discuss. I don't think I have congestive heart failure, liver, or kidney disease, necessarily.

Rolling around in the back of my mind though are two things... and part of my thinks I shouldn't be posting all this in a public forum, but what the heck...

Liver cancer killed my mom and her brother. But not this young, it came later.... twenty years from now. And it wasn't cirrohsis, it was cancer. BUT, the women in my family did have huge ankles late in life. Moreso my grandma and another aunt (the one that ~hasn't~ gotten cancer) than my mom, though. Mom didn't really get swollen ankles ever. When her liver failed, her retention was all abdominal.

Other things I'm thinking about too, that I don't feel like I am at liberty to discuss, but I want Ramius to see.

Edema (pitting and non-pitting edema) information at MedicineNet.com

6,106 posted on 06/30/2005 2:31:54 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2Jedismom
They do bear watching.

I don't see how bear watching is going to help.

6,107 posted on 06/30/2005 2:37:00 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Well, a good physical would at least ease your mind...it really may be something that you can easily fix!

I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers, for what it's worth...and keep me posted if you go to the doc. I'm rusty as a nurse, but I'll do the best I can to give you info or answer any questions.

PS: They put the most dreadful reasons for pitting edema online, so don't heed it much. Kidney failure could simply mean your kidney is failing to filter sodium like it did when you were a younger lass. My kidneys fail to do the job pretty frequently, like after a massive bowl of popcorn. Can't even budge my normally loose wedding ring.


6,108 posted on 06/30/2005 2:39:41 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Heh...thanks for fixin' my typo.


6,109 posted on 06/30/2005 2:40:25 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: RMDupree; Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog; SuziQ; RosieCotton; Corin Stormhands; ...

Thank you everyone, so much, for your kind birthday wishes! Both my children had flown in to spend a couple days at home, so we've been visiting and I haven't been near the computer in several days, weirdly! so please accept my apologies for not responding until now -

Still way behind on posts.

Anyway, all this has reminded me of what I said once before, that the Hobbit Hole has been a bright spot in my life, even though my life has been good so far. It's nice to belong to our little online community, especially as so many of us have also had the opportunity to meet in RL. It's like belonging to a private club, IMO.

We have yet more family now visiting for the weekend of the 4th, so I'll likely be missing again for a few days.

HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY, Everyone!


6,110 posted on 06/30/2005 2:41:48 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree

Happy fourth to you too Sam! I figured you must have been out traveling, that you wouldn't go without visiting otherwise!


6,111 posted on 06/30/2005 2:42:52 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2Jedismom

What kind of doctor should I try to see? I don't have a doctor. The one I saw last year was in the HMO (Group Health) that I'm no longer in. So I'd be starting from scratch.


6,112 posted on 06/30/2005 2:45:00 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree

D'oh! Forgot you in the ping!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1414820/posts?page=6068#6068


6,113 posted on 06/30/2005 2:45:36 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: 2Jedismom

God bless them. The Blackhawk is a cool chopper.


6,114 posted on 06/30/2005 2:47:23 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: HairOfTheDog

You probably should go see an internal medicine doc. They're like a general practitioner, but they only see adults...general practitioners are like the old family practice doctors...they see adults, kids, deliver babies, all that stuff.

Internal Medicine physicians see only adults and deal with adult illnesses and don't mess around with things like "well-baby" appointments and school physicals.


6,115 posted on 06/30/2005 2:48:30 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: Sam Cree

Finally got some pics...I actually think they saw me taking pictures and made that last circle for me just so I could.


6,116 posted on 06/30/2005 2:50:23 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: 2Jedismom
If the solution ends up being a diuretic, could he prescribe that? Or would I be sent to a specialist? What I fear, pocketbook-wise, is the whole litany of tests they are going to want to run to exclude all the major organ failures. That's financial death by a thousand paper cuts. I think our deductible is at $2,000 (we just did all this too, and decided to go with a minimal plan) and even after that, it's only 80-20. We just can't afford to run the gamut of possibilities. I wish I hadn't brought it up at all.... poor ecurbh has been stressing out as it is.
6,117 posted on 06/30/2005 2:52:49 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

He could probably take care of it...he could run basic bloodwork, you know? They do prescribe stuff like that.

I think you should have brought it up...at least you can talk about it now, even if it doesn't help with the decision. Nothing good about having it bottled up, I can tell ya.


6,118 posted on 06/30/2005 2:56:16 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: smaagee

Check your email. (Not FReepmail)

And get a new message on your answering machine. A Generic message from a generic voice sucks.

If you want me to, I will record one for you with my mellifluous voice.


6,119 posted on 06/30/2005 2:58:48 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58; smaagee

See here!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1414820/posts?page=6068#6068


6,120 posted on 06/30/2005 2:59:44 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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